Uraling The Great Divide (now with more dogs!)

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by rebelpacket, Jul 27, 2013.

  1. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    Awesome report! For the first time in my life I have the urge to own a sidecar rig so I can enjoy adventures with my dog, Tank.
  2. Qwik

    Qwik Adrenaline Addict

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    Yup, what she said.
  3. Doug329

    Doug329 Adventurer

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    WOW....Just a super RR. We did the CDR last August, and your report made me relive what was one of our best adventures to date. Thanks for taking the time and sharing with us all.

    Your writing style is envied by us mere mortals. I'm still laughing over some of your descriptions and quotes.ie." canned digestive distress"....

    I wish you and Lola many more years of safe and enjoyable three wheeling. Best to Wayne, Zina , and Simon also...

    Ride Safe,
    Doug :clap


  4. rebelpacket

    rebelpacket four-stroke earth-saw

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    After enjoying many weeks OFF the Ural, and on other steeds (I can see why that car thing really took off), I finally cleared a full day to take everything apart.

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    (A table full of Ural parts. Really not much too it all).

    So, the lingering question: Why take it all apart?

    I noticed about 3/4 through the ride that my butt was getting sore twice as fast in the saddle. Even on relatively nice roads, I felt like I had been running through a cornfield backwards. On the way home, I noticed this:

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    The welds on the seat bracket didn't crack; The thinner material at the base did. The seat was canted to one side and had some movement to it, which was wearing my left-hand buttock rather quickly.

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    I also noticed this spreading crack from the spotlight on the sidecar. Not a big deal, but it did make me worry about the rest of the frame and sidecar welds.

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    I also found several cracks along the sidecar tub too.

    So, I took everything apart, cleaned up the welded areas of the frame and sidecar supports. More to see how everything had held up, more than out of absolute necessity.

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    The motor went off to Unique Rides in Fort Collins, CO to have Randy put a new main seal put in. (Spent most of that day oogling the Royal Enfields he has in stock and stuffing my face with Beau-Jeaus Pizza).

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    I split open the final drive. There was an abnormal amount of swarf on the drain plug after the trip, which I attributed to the unknown time spent running without a filler plug and oil in Wyoming. I was more concerned with the condition of the gears, bearings and ...

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    This small passageway which is part of delivering lubricating oil to the 2WD system.

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    Pinion gear looked good...

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    Teeth on the ring gear have a nice, solid mesh pattern too.

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    All in all, the Ural held up very good considering the speeds and roads involved. Despite leaking through part of the ride, the rear main seal did its job for the rest of the ride. The cracked seat pan and sidecar tub cracks were all easily fixed with a drill and a welder.

    Lessons Learned:

    Pack lighter. I brought so many spare parts and extra tools that I don't think I really needed. I could have left most of them at home with quick shipping instructions for Kait and saved myself the trouble. I did not need two sets of wheel bearings, spare brake pads, THREE heavy-duty spare tubes, and an entire spare clutch lever & perch.

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  5. Bonnie & Clyde

    Bonnie & Clyde Wishing I was riding RTW

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    Thanks for the follow up. While you have the tub off you might think about LineX on the inside and bottom section that faces the road surface. It will stiffen up the whole tub less flex and fight rust to some degree.
  6. Rango

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    Follow up greatly appreciated.

    What were the causes for the various cracks in the welds? Was it all from the rugged terrain, load or others? I had not the impression that you were pushing the GU to the limit.

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  7. rebelpacket

    rebelpacket four-stroke earth-saw

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    Good tip! I'll look into that, though I am hesitant to do anything that adds MORE weight to the rig. Its a pig! :lol3

    The crack on the seat is just poor design. Its a REALLY beefy seat bracket, a REALLY beefy seat mount, and a plate about 1/2 the thickness. I'm no spring chicken at 200 lbs, so I guess something had to give.

    The cracks on the sidecar are just abuse. A lot of the ride was high speed (40-50mph) dirt-road cruising with hammering washboards and rocks.

    The spotlight isn't mounted very well, so I think that developed as a result of a sub-par mounting ring.

    The sidecar cracks I'll just chalk up to lots of high-frequency vibrations, thunks, clunks and what-have-you. IMWA covered all the repairs under warranty.

    Several other people have spoken up about similar cracks on their sidecars, though they never got any worse, or caused structural failures. Maybe its just the old girl "settling-in". :1drink
  8. sophijo

    sophijo Been here awhile

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    BTW....when you're referring to individual buttock halves I believe the correct
    medical term is "Bahdinski", unless ofcourse you are referring to the Kardosianski sisters, then the correct term is buttasauris, or buttasauriisimo (Eyetalian).
    Great report! Enjoyed your ride with the pooch! Thanks!
  9. Wingfixer

    Wingfixer Watch this...

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    Godzilla approves of this thread! We have begun looking for a good, used Ural....

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    He would also like to meet Lola. He feels they would have a lot in common as he is also a pervasive pooper and enjoys covering any and everything in pee.

    And I will add that if you ever find yourself in Baltimore let me know, I would love to buy you dinner and a few beers for some more stories of Ural adventure!
  10. rebelpacket

    rebelpacket four-stroke earth-saw

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    Most excellent! Next time I find myself in the Baltimore area, I'll look you up!

    Never too late to get your pooch started in a Ural. Lola was 10 years old the first time she rode in one. I'm sure Godzilla would love it too!

    Used ones are not super common, but can be found if you're up for a drive. Try to get anything 2007 and newer, as they have the best improvements over the 2000-2006 range.

    Good luck! I hope to read about your travels with Godzilla someday, or maybe team up for a doggie sidecar super-ride. :)

    -Alex & Lola
  11. h2o_snow

    h2o_snow Water, snow & dirt too.

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    Great pic - I'd vote that for a cover shot!
  12. LilYoda

    LilYoda Been here awhile

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    Thanks a lot for your story. I read it all, and like many others, I think it has given me the itch to look for Ural in the classified websites.

    I will try to force myself to finish current bike projects, but I am weak, and may cave in to temptation :D
  13. tshelfer

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  14. rebelpacket

    rebelpacket four-stroke earth-saw

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    Folks, I'm sorry to update this thread with bad news, but I like to think this story is a great way to keep a memory alive.

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    Tuesday (04/08/2014) I had to say goodbye to my friend of 12 years, very suddenly. What started as her not eating (unheard of) turned into a frenzied mass of emergency scans and x-rays. The result was startling. She was riddled with tumors, and one on her spleen had burst and was bleeding into her abdomen.

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    Faced with the prospect of putting her through $4K worth of very invasive surgery for a couple extra months, we chose to let her go out with the dignity she deserved.

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    With swollen, tearful eyes, Kait and I laid down on the floor with Lola and surrounded her with as much love as we could muster, and watched her pass.

    As pet owners, you know its coming, but nothing can really prepare you for the loss. We gave each-other a really fantastic life, and I will always wish for another hour, day, or week. If I had waited a year for this sidecar ride, I wouldn't have all these amazing memories with my best friend.

    I hope this whole ride encourages everyone to get up, get out and get going. Don't let your fears or worries hold you back, and go for the experience. If you can bring your fuzzy-buddy along, the whole experience is that much better.
  15. btao

    btao RIP Lilolita

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    I'm really, really sorry there man. I've been there. Irreplaceable. Glad you had many good times and memories.....

    sent from my portable multipurpose communicator
  16. Proveick

    Proveick Long timer

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    I'm so, so sorry for the loss. My deepest sympathies to you folks.
    You two have so many wonderful memories. :cry
  17. jprhode

    jprhode Adventurer

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    Sorry for your loss amigo.

    I made a small donation to HSPPR in honor of Lola, sidecar dog extraordinaire.

    cheers
    Jason
  18. Lacedaemon

    Lacedaemon Been here awhile

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    I've been there too. A pretty wretched feeling.

    She sure went out on top though - that ride was quite an adventure.
  19. Rango

    Rango Phaneropter

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    Imagine she's riding sidecar all the time now.
    Without goggles, because there aren't bugs there.

    Sad news, but your advice is excellent.
    And the ride -and the report- was great, a fine memorial.

    A libation to the dog.:beer
  20. Wingfixer

    Wingfixer Watch this...

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    Godzilla and I are very sorry to read this. :cry I have had my share of great dogs, have one of them sitting beside me right now, and I still miss them all. Rest in peace Lola.