Us ageing hooligans, what bike?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by iantochips, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. iantochips

    iantochips Long timer

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    Ok, I'm almost 60, bit of arthritis in the wrists, short at 5'8", and 11 stone soaking wet. Still ride like I took my brain out before leaving home.

    Can't help it. I've ridden like this for 45 years and probably 50+ bikes.

    Last few bikes? Guzzi 1200 Sport (couldn't cope with the clip ons), Bmw 1150GSA (fabulous road bike but high and heavy), Triumph Scrambler (million dollar looks, bland, slow). And I still have an XT600 for the dirt roads round my house.

    The dirt roads shred chains and I'd like belt or a shaft.

    And I'm not rich! Got about £5000 max to spend on something to satisfy the inner hooligan. Preferably less. XR1200? Any particular Buell with a lower seat than the Ulysses I tried a while ago? Loved the bike but the styling is def not hooligan enough and I needed a step ladder to climb aboard!
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  2. Nadgett

    Nadgett Obnoxious, dimwitted blowhard

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    I'm 60 years old, have arthritis, 5'10", 13 stone, and ride an XR1200. The first time I rode it it reminded me of my old Norton Commando (although it is heavier and more powerful). I can flat foot it at a stop with both knees bent.

    I've ridden a Guzzi 1200 Sport (and owned a 750 Nevada). The XR is comparable in power and handling to the Guzzi 1200, but has a more standard seating position. You lean very slightly forward.

    Try one. I think you'll like it, although it's too heavy for dirt roads, and the belt won't fare any better than a chain.
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  3. unlucky1

    unlucky1 Been here awhile

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    XB12STT seems to satisfy this. Lower than the Uly, more hooligan than the Uly.

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  4. Pokeyjoe

    Pokeyjoe Newchurch

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    Griso. Million dollar looks, shaft drive.
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  5. sfrider300

    sfrider300 Been here awhile

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    Griso. 5'8" is not too short for it.
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  6. Roadscum

    Roadscum Long timer

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    Can you tell us how you plan to use it, touring, bar hopper, all roadways, some unsaved roads, day ride, pillion rider, etc.......

    Last year I bought a Vespa 300 GTS in Las Vegas, road it to S. Ca. to play in the canyons, then Yosemite...... then home to Florida. 5000 mile of smiles in 30 days, never had more fun on 2 wheels in over 54 years of riding. Ride what puts a smile on your face. :lol3

    Don't let the age thing slow you down, I'm 69 and manage about 20k miles a year, no time to grow old here.

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  7. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze I keep blowing down the road

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    You have so many choices in Europe that we don't get here, this is a tough one. And you don't want a chain, but you want a hooligan bike. And it's got to have a relatively low seat height?

    hmmmm

    Buell and Moto Guzzi? Hooligans? I don't think so. Top heavy pigs if you ask me.

    I think you probably need to do a better job of chain maintenance, and give yourself a bunch more options.

    What about the new Mt-09 that Yamaha is coming out with? Or perhaps a left over FZ8?

    I would think you could find something like a ZRX1200R/GSX1400/Bandit...
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  8. Gham

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    At 56 I sometimes wonder how many more good years I have of riding,this was inspiring:clap
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  9. JStory

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    1200 Bandit?
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  10. iantochips

    iantochips Long timer

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    Should have been clearer- we have great roads here in my quiet corner of Portugal and almost no traffic. Mostly local 150 mile days so not too concerned with range or seat comfort.

    Rarely with a pillion- in my shed is an old VL1500 which I'm bobbing, dechroming, and attaching to a Dnepr sidecar for family outings or group bar hopping. For serious hooligan outings I think I should only risk my own neck! Love the Vespa story though!

    I did 650 mile days on my last few bikes coming back from the Uk and even the Scrambler was ok, just let down by its overtaking performance, poor suspension and wooden front brake (guess you can tell I didn't like it....).

    My house is a mile up a dirt road and the surface much of the year is an astonishingly abrasive fine dust. Chain cleaning is a daily ritual and I've been spoiled by the BM and the Guzzi.

    Can't believe anyone would call a Guzzi a top heavy pig after riding one for long enough to appreciate its virtues. The Tonti frame was a handling paragon in the days when Jap frames were still made of knicker elastic. The 8v Griso is hard to find in my price range though.

    My short list is all v-twins. Griso, XR, and a Buell. A Speed triple without the chain would be there though.

    Buell's have a certain charm....
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  11. OneTraveller

    OneTraveller Social Reject

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    Ducati Monster or Hyper if you can live with a chain.

    Mike
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  12. Bugtussle

    Bugtussle Been here awhile

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    Im 62 and i've been spending allot more time in the "Battle Scooter" forum. Its nice slowing down a bit. These days for me its two shots of Geritol and a good crack on the ass with canoe paddle. Then Im off at a ripping 45 mph smelling the roses! Good stuff. Too old now to get busted up. :freaky
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  13. cueball

    cueball should'a walked it first

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    i'll be 64 in a month and like nothing better than coming off humps in the road on one wheel wound out in 2nd or third gear on my ducati st4!! my shaft driven r1200rt is a hoot also, but when i leave the ole brain at home, as you say, that 916 motor is hard to beat!!:evil
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  14. rockmurf

    rockmurf IBA #31100

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    2013 triumph street triple r
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    Almost 62 and my ktm990smt is just about perfect and hope it continues that way.
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  16. ROAD DAMAGE

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    Brutale? :evil
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  17. Tim_Tom

    Tim_Tom Long timer

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    Get the lightest bike you can find, with the best motor you can find. Something that can loft wheelies effortlessly, hustle a twisty road, and its sure to bring a smile every time you ride it.

    You need a nicely worked RD400. :evil

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    This one belongs to an aging hooligan friend of mine and he can't get enough of it.


    If you really need a modern bike for some reason you can't do much better than a Monster 1100 or a Speed Triple R.

    Edit: Just saw you wanted a shaft drive, hmmm. A shaft drive hooligan bike is a rare beast indeed... You will need to figure out whether youd rather care for a chain on a light and nimble bike or have a bigger and heavier heavier motorcycle.
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  18. bdonley

    bdonley Been here awhile

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    That RD looks like a great one. I've had both an RD 350 and RZ 350. Really fun, light simple bikes.
    I'm 58, about 5'7", one knee replaced and the other waiting. the knees got me off my Monster and BMW R1100RSL. Couldn't make the bend to the pegs anymore. Tried a Sportster. Basic, the roadster. Improved the suspension on it. It already had stage 1 engine mods, just the basics to make it run right. I've always been an HD naysayer. Ya know, I'm really liking it. Feels a lot like my Guzzi SP 1000. Comfortable, basic. No it's not fast. But, it's fast enough for a ton of fun on a back road.It could be lighter. So could I! But, actually it's easier to work on then the Guzzi or the BMW, and with a ton of parts support. The rubber mounts make it incredibly smooth. Minimal maintence with hydraulic valves, belt drive, single carb. And it's a 2005, rather then an old bike with all the problems that brings.It's just a good, fun, standard motorcyle. It's going to the USGP @ Laguna Seca in 3 weeks..[​IMG]
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  19. frytown

    frytown Been here awhile

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    Second on the Street Triple. Just spent a 300 mi day ripping around the mountains of Northern Colorado on a friend's bike. Hands down, the most fun bike I've ever ridden. I can't really explain why.

    My daily ride is a Tiger 800 so I've got an affinity. But that Street Triple is about perfect. Certainly will be my next, second bike (keeping a Tiger of course).

    Do yourself a giant favor and get on one for, say, twenty minutes. I'm sure that's all it'll take...
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  20. corndog67

    corndog67 Banned

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    That bike is cool. I want one of those. I had the little Kawasaki Triples when I was young, S2, S3.
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