US citizen buying a bike in France (Marseille)?

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  1. nick2ny

    nick2ny Been here awhile

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    Howdy all,

    I am living in beautiful Marseille, but I don't yet have an EU driving license (I am working on the exchange. But it is complicated for a couple of reasons so I think it might take two months to complete ). In the meantime, I am desperate to have a motorcycle or scooter. Do you know if I can buy one as a US / EU dual citizen with only a US license? Do I have to get a friend to register it in his name or something? :deal

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  2. Olirider

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    Hello,

    I think this is possible as long as you have a French address, a legal proof of it and a "carte de séjour".

    The back roads around Marseille are beautiful to ride !
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  3. GiorgioXT

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    About driving license, you could keep your USA one (+ international eventually) for a year , after you have to get an EU license or convert - conversion is possible not in all EU countries - e.g. in Italy conversion is only for military or diplomats.
    But from Marseille you could exit the EU riding to Switzerland or ferrying to Tunisia and voilà , another year …

    In Italy is also possible to buy a car or bike with an "EE" temporary plate valid one year , destined to foreign people, should be something similar also in France - could be interesting since that way you will save the 21 or 22% vat tax,
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  4. kristof-lars

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  5. fluff34567

    fluff34567 Long timer

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    You dont need a licence to buy a bike or car. You need one to ride drive it so depending on the length of current residency you may not be able to ride it until you do the conversion.

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  6. nick2ny

    nick2ny Been here awhile

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    Do I need a French license to register and insure it, or do I just need an address?

    Thanks!

    -Nick
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  7. fluff34567

    fluff34567 Long timer

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    To buy and register no, to insure... depends on the Insurance company but prob not but I would expect a higher premium.

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    im french american, from california; moved to france, tried, cant be done with my california and international license
    you have to have the license of the country you are in to insure and register the vehicle:deal


    sucks
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  9. fluff34567

    fluff34567 Long timer

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    I bought and registered a vehicle when I lived in france, I didnt have a french driving licence.

    Different question...
    Is the us International license something different to anywhere else in the world ? I ask as I see loads of posts and questions and comments that suggest its more than a simple translation document.

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  10. kristof-lars

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    what did you do to register the bike? i am a Canadian in France with my bike license and international license, i also have a sister here who is a resisdent she lives here full time and i can use her adress.

    as far as i know with the international drivers its simply a translation of what is on your license i believe after a certain amount of time whatever is allowed in the country your driving in you either have an option if available of handing your licence in for the countries maybe with a written test, some countries dont let you do this and you have to go through the whole process. just from what i hear.
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    yes but you had a EU license from switzerland,
    For us USA license holders, its different.

    unless our home state is on a list of exchangeable licenses, there are very few,we have to pass the french one.

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    Buy a 'bike from a neighbouring country & keep their plates on it & just ride & hope for the best.

    There are hundreds or probably thousands of cars in England driving around on plates from other EEC countries & the police basically ignore them unless they get into an accident.
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  13. fluff34567

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    Switzerland is not in the EU and I didnt have an EU or a swiss licence either and registering a vehicle is totally different to converting a driving licence.


    Bought a bike, went to the prefecture with proof of my address and the bike paper. Walked out with papers in my name and address. Not 1 mention of a driving licence and I registered more than 1 bike and dealt with different people.

    Legally riding it is a different matter all together.

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  14. kristof-lars

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    hmmm this intrigues me can you offer any clarification on this? i doubt i would be able to register a bike here with proof of my residence in canada...
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    You'll need to have an address in France. If you want to register the bike in your name, you'll have to produce proof of your connection to the address, for example, a utilities or telephone bill or a bank statement less than 90 days old in your name. If you plan to insure the bike, which is mandatory, you'll also have to prove your residence to the insurance company. If you are stopped by the police and you don't have the little green paper stuck to the bike, problems.
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    i can register the bike in my sisters name and have mine on the registration aswell from what i hear, i do not have any documentation with my name on it at this residence so i will probably have to go this route, my sister and her husband also use one company for insurance and insure alot of things multiple homes vehicles bikes etc and there agent is awesome so im sure i can get insurance through them, i was just wondering in regards to fluff34567 post about he did it without a French address and being in a country not int the EU.
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  17. RTLover

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    If your sister is willing to register the bike in her name, and perhaps yours as well, and have it insured, that will work. Your getting insurance alone would be problematic with most companies. The agency would want documentation from previous agencies of your record so they can determine the tariff. To get the maximum 50%, you'd have to have a spotless record for the past 13 years.

    fluff lived in France and bought and registered the bike there with back-up documentation of residency in France. That is the easy part. Buying a bike doesn't necessarily mean you're going to ride it or insure it. When he went to the prefecture, all they did was register it. As he said, riding illegally is another issue.
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  18. fluff34567

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    Eh? You need to read a bit slower.

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  19. kristof-lars

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    yep got ya was thrown off there, well i guess the only thing i have to call around for then is insurance to make sure if i can even get it not sure how getting documentation from my provincial insurance provider back home will go. start calling around i guess see what is needed.
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  20. fluff34567

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    No worries there have been a few people discussing other subjects also.

    Looking at your location are you in ventron 88310?

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