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Discussion in 'Airheads' started by mgman269, Jun 21, 2010.
Yup; I mentioned that the first time but just edited the last post for that. Thanks.
Next time I can work on the bike (and ride it...so sad) I'll be able to have the switch and proper bezel too!
First though, I have to finish the rebuild of my 1949 Ford 8N tractor's steering box. :eek1 The parts should be waiting for me when I get home from work today.
PS, um, what are "side lights"?
The 5-position switch is available in the US. The bezel can be ordered. Motobins is cheaper, though.
The bezel shows up in the ST fiche but not the G/S or GS fiche. The ST has a different dash; will that bezel work with the G/S and GS? Funny, I should remember this. I rode a euro GS for a few weeks last summer. Maybe I have a pic of it somewhere showing if it has a bezel or not.
Last year when I bought the 5 position switch, I ordered it at my local BMW dealer (BMW of Detroit). It would be nice to know if the bezel will fit my 88 GS, but just looking at the photo on Motobins, I "think" it will.
What are "side lights"???
Seems to me the bezel would only work on switches that are attached from the back side. The G/S and GS have the lock ring on the front. But that's just a hypothesis.
There is, BTW, NO SUCH THING as a "euro" handlebar switch for the Airhead GS.
Folks instead are adapting, for example, RT parts.
The Euro GS switches the lighting via the 5-position ignition switch.
Not after 1991. It's on the handle bars. It's the difference between the Paralever models that causing the confusion
Here's my 1993 UK spec Paralever - Off/Side/Main all on the right hand switchgear with a 3 position ignition switch,
Listed here as well - Motorworks
Up to 1990 it's all done on the ignition switch
Costs around $20
Side lights are the position that brings all the lights on with the exception of the main headlight. Not sure what you guys call that position. It's position 4 on the bezel above
Back to the bezel - it's used on the R80ST, 1990 R100PD and some R65s. Looking at the pic, it might actually work on the G/S and early GS. The ID of the bezel looks like about 3cm, which is what the lock ring OD is, and the OD of the bezel is about 4.5cm which would almost but not quite overhang the instrument pod.
So, someone with that bezel (could be a US-spec one) should try it on a G/S or early GS. I don't have a bike with that bezel available right now or I'd do it myself.
$20!! Damn, that's much cheaper than I'd have guessed. Looks like a no-brainer. Still wonder if the bezel would work tho'...
The one in the picture is a g/s/early gs item. Listed here Link
It's on the Motobins site as well.
Were you thinking of one of these?
No, I was looking at the trim ring that SL posted earlier.
The Euro bezel will work on the G/S and GS up to '91 when they switch to the speedo/tach combo and K bike handlebar switch gear.
Same as I have on the NC G/S.
No, the one for the 5-position switch that SL posted.
Someone was looking for something like that to use after installing the 5-position switch, and they were happy to see SL's mention of the 5-position trim ring that might be used. Then I wondered if that would even work, since the G/S and GS switch attaches differently than the ones for which that ring was intended. It's all in the earlier posts - just read the thread - but with the complete dash being only $20 it's sort of a moot point now.
Personally I think the 5-position switch is a PITA anyway. I'd rather just have off/run/run+lights. Will do the wire swap one of these months.
Just for clarity, the "euro" 5 position ignition switch was standard equipment on all of the 1974 /6 bikes.
Just since no one has mentioned it.
Aaagh! It seems this part pictured above is THE part I need. However, Moto Works will no longer ship to the USA.
Anton, the 5 position switch might be a pain, but since I already have it, I might as well try using it. I am thinking the manner in which I will use it is to start my early GS without the headlight on, and then prior to moving out, switching over to have the light on constantly. I just very much prefer the headlight NOT drawing precious battery power until the bike is running.
And thank you to Rob for both the side lights explanation (makes perfect sense) and for the pretty picture of the part I want and need but cannot get (yet).
Have your local BMW dealer get it for you.
Part number is 62 21 1 244 047
A source in Germany is http://www.speed-autoteile.com
motobins sell the same part.
As Ikchris says your BMW dealer will be able to order one as well
Bloody old thread I know but as I'm going to be doing a hell of a lot of fireroads and trails at slow speed this year I wanted an option of running without lights using power . The swapping of the grey and green wires was perfect for me !
Cheers guys .
So to resurrect...
On my '92 US-spec R100GS can I just plug in 61 31 2 305 232 and have the ability to switch off my headlight ala Euro-style? The same part number ending in 233 is the US number for the combiswitch without the headlight switch on it.