Used Subarus and the head gasket thing...

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  1. mr openroad

    mr openroad Target Fixated

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    good job! call them back and tell them you solved the problem and want a job as a subie mechanic :lol3
  2. Meter Man

    Meter Man Living on a prayer

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    I think I might:rofl. The independent guy is supposed to be a savant, I understand that the dealership goes to him on stuff they can't figure out.

    I think he was too smart for his own good.
  3. ddavidv

    ddavidv Thrifty not cheap

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    BTDT, just without the time and money wasted on parts replacers (sometimes called "mechanics"). That's Subaru 101; solution available on almost any internet forum search.
  4. mr openroad

    mr openroad Target Fixated

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    so this head gasket problem is a thing of the past right ? and only on earlier models ? :ear
  5. green hell

    green hell yawning or snarling

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    i'd say the jury is still out on that.

    i'm getting new gaskets on my '07 with 110,000 miles. small external leak, but annoying.
  6. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    I had an '05 Outback Wagon. 2.4l It had 104,000 when I got rid of it. I only kept it 7 months. (The shortest time I ever kept a vehicle was 5 years and that was so short because "Cash for Clunkers" was giving me $2500 more than my '91 Cherokee was worth) I could smell antifreeze all the time outside of the car when it was running and warmed up. It was time for a timing belt anyway. I couldn't stand the idea of selling it to someone face to face, for fear that it would have a major problem. So I traded it in. I never buy a vehicle from a dealer. I like private sales, but I felt I had only this option so I wouldn't have someone egging my house or worse. The 2,4l motor had issues pulling my utility trailer with my KTM in it up some of the hills in Western Mass. I had to shift to the lowest gear and really give it gas. Fuel mileage on these isn't very good considering how small the engine is. I usually got between 17 and 20 mpg.

    Traded it in for a Honda Ridgeline pick-up 3 years ago. I get the same mileage and I can tow 5000 lbs and comfortably carry 5 adults. The rear seat flips up and outta the way and all my riding gear travels inside and I can get 2 bikes in the bed.

    I will never have another Subaru. YMMV
  7. John E

    John E Been here awhile

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    of faulty head gaskets is in the past and it only involved the 2.5 liter engine.

    There may well be isolated headgasket problems with newer and even current models but to my knowledge there hasn't been anything close to the problems that occurred in the past. I own a 1996 Outback and I had to have the headgasket replaced a couple of years ago, it's run fine since I had that done.

    Anyone that's had serious issues with any current or late model Subaru is in a very small minority.
  8. mr openroad

    mr openroad Target Fixated

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    how much is it going to run you?
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    mr openroad Target Fixated

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    thanks for the info :thumb
  10. Mechanista

    Mechanista manic depressive

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    I started all 4 of my kids with air-cooled bugs. Now for some reason they all have 96 to 06 Subaru Outbacks with 2.5's.
    These have been pretty good cars, so far.
    The oldest car has 226,000 mi on it now. My two daughters used it on their tour of North America trip several years ago 11,000mi with only a throttle position sensor problem. A week after they returned home the radiator gave out. Not a big deal.
    They are well designed for the mechanic. I can change a clutch out in 3 hours. A head gasket in about 5hrs. ( As long as you have the new head bolts to go with it!) I have only had to do one of ours, and one for a friend.
    The biggest issue, in my opinion, is to keep track of timing belt service. A failure can lead to serious expense.
    I have trained my kids to check fluid levels and pay attention to gauges, so this may be why we have had such good luck with these cars.
  11. Mendodave

    Mendodave Road Scholar

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    sigh,

    ah yes, the 80-84's. great cars.

    get a lift kit and bigger wheels...:evil

    [​IMG]

    now I have an '03 Forester with the 2.5 engine. Purchased used with 25k miles, got the clutch replaced under a recall, but otherwise no issues....it now has 85k. Running with Mobil One since I got it.

    The old Subie leaked in the winter... :-(

    Mendo
  12. green hell

    green hell yawning or snarling

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    $1500 with machining, $1000 without.
  13. mr openroad

    mr openroad Target Fixated

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    I assume that would be a shop pulling the heads.are you going to do the machining? I guess you could get around it if the heads are not warped.
  14. green hell

    green hell yawning or snarling

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    shop's got the whole thing. since it's a small external leak i doubt there will be a need for machining. the later models seem to have external leaks; the older models have the internal leaks.

    my coolant reservoir looks good; no bubbles, no film, no loss. the oil leak is small, but blows back on the motor mount and exhaust, so it smells bad and would probably soften the mount after a while.
  15. ddavidv

    ddavidv Thrifty not cheap

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    Your problem is you had the 2.4l engine, which never existed. I can see how not having an engine in your car could cause problems pulling a trailer.
  16. Chi-Ha

    Chi-Ha soft-handed crime fighter

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    Doh!:huh
    Just bought an 09 Impreza 2.5 with auto "whip"shift (wife won't learn stick and now with kids, her being able to use my car is more important)

    I wanted a Subie because I have a long commute that I can't get out of when we have snow here in the NE. I settled on the 09 rather than a new Impreza because this one only had 6500 miles. Practicly new at a used car price:evil
    Wife had an 87 GL back in the day that survived many "accidents" that she inflicted on it. Many friends have had Subies over the years, none experienced the HG problem.

    My last two civics I put over 200k miles on. A '90 CRX (250K miles still was still getting close to 40mpg when I sold it. It was the best long range commuter ride ever made). my 01 civic needed struts twice! Engine leaked oil from the day I bought it with 75k on the clock. That car nickled and dimed me to selling it with 210K before I had to replace the clutch and Cat Converter.
  17. broncobowsher

    broncobowsher Long timer

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    My grandparents early 90's Subaru was a total POS from the moment they picked it off a used car lot. Leaked, drooled, pissed it's pans, general POS that usually ran but was always needing one fluid or another topped off. If you filled them all then a mechanical part would fail.

    My brother got a new '02(?) forester wagon. 4-cylinder, naturally asperated, 5-speed. Does tons of miles, mostly highway. Few years ago overloaded the car for a cross country drive. Started in Vegas and moved to the midwest. struggled up mountain passes with the semis as that was all the car could do. In the summer as well. I was just back to see him. Still driving the car. Has not reached 200k yet but it shown no signs why it won't. It has been a good car. They got a B9 Tribeca several years ago (but after the grill changed to not as ugly) and it is surviving very nicely.

    Go to any car specific website and you will find the weak link. As said above, they are all shit. Everything has a breaking point, some people can tear up an anvil with a rubber mallet, others can break a sledge hammer in a sand box. I have had used cars there were total POS but I actually considered it one of the best values in a used car at the same time. Cheap to buy, cheap to maintain, always needed work often in a serious way, but still a great value in the end.

    Read the forums on my new ride, the front diff is going to blow up, the transmission will die, paint will peel off, the engine will sing, and I went and bought one anyway. Amazingly it lves a normal life just like any grocery getter ride does. Maye not trying to race it, lift it, and beat on it keeps it from turning into total junk?
  18. ultane

    ultane sqeezin the bag

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    Supposedly Subaru up graded the head gaskets for the 2.5 in 2008, again in 2009, and again last year (IIRC) in order to solve the problem. They also DEMAND that you only use there 'SUBARU SUPER COOLANT' to prevent gasket failures.




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  19. seuadr

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    there is an additive that they offer.
  20. mr openroad

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    Subaru super coolant ? sounds like horse shit to me :lol3