Utards whos riding what

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by frog, May 22, 2008.

  1. miatre

    miatre So yeah about that.

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    Not certain what Hz is.

    Well if you want a mechanics drama story.. read on. If not the updates are at the bottom paragraph.

    My CRF Short story. Bought the bike with a hot cams in it. I rode the bike last season on and off and noticed the burning of the oil and often hard starts. Checked the valves probably too late and they were way off. I decided to open the machine up to see what would cause the burning and was expecting to replace piston and rings. Wrong. I have some cracked and missing valve seats hence the purchase of the new 250 r head. So read the prior posts to understand the current assembly experiences.

    Well late last night i decide to pull out the current hot cams and replace it with the stock cam that was given to me by prior owner. Assembled it, started it, and wham... we are good to go, it purrs as it should. I should have stopped there. But no.. i wanted the spiffy more powerful cam and was curious as to the problem. I stopped working and waited until this morning. I took it out and measured tolerances between the 2 and seen they had big differences. I reduced the shims by one as I had installed them more on the tight side and not the loose side. Got the hot cams back in and buttoned up and started. Crazy loud same drive me crazy noise. I say screw it and start to put the Honda original on in. Once that decision was made i was happy with an end in site. In the process of assembly i drop the cam chain. No biggie get a pick an pull it up and re-assemble as I have done no less than 10 times before. button it up and go to turn it over by hand. It seizes up.. WTF
    I go look at the marks and they are off. pissed as hell i uninstall everything and reassemble everything verifying everything 2 times. button it up and turn it over. It seizes up again. Again... wtf. I step away to consider my assembly and think i must have dropped something. So i go to disassemble the cam and chain to rotate the bottom end alone. With the cam off and turning the crank it locks up. Turns out i dropped the chain off the bottom gear. So i pull off the left hand assembly to realign the cam chain and leave the bottom case off during the whole process. Get the chain cam and other bits and pieces on yet again and rotate it by hand. Boom we are golden. Again.. end in site, again. Well i button up the bottom left hand side again and check everything again then rotate it again and all is smooth. Its now time to hear this baby purr.

    I add oil my temp oil splash guards and insert the spark plug wire and turn the key push the e-start button and the motor spins and spins. It spins so nice with the starter pushing it. Problem is it should be running like the other 7 times it has in the past 24 hours after being all buttoned up.

    Frustrated, I check fuel, yup got fuel. Check air, yup not in a void of that at the moment. check spark, no spark. Im assuming I did something to the wiring along the way when I removed the bottom left hand case. I reseated the connections and checked with prod light and nothing. So now I am off to get a multi meter. Fun stuff. Thanks again for the suggestions so far.
  2. frog

    frog Long timer

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    Hz=frequency. Sometimes you can pinpoint an engine noise based on how many revolutions the engine does per clank or knock. The valves, piston/crank, cam chain etc all move at different speeds.
  3. miatre

    miatre So yeah about that.

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    I understand now. Thanks for the explanation and it makes sense.
  4. frog

    frog Long timer

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    Did an oil change on the ktm today. Its a little more involved then a jap bike. :D
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  5. SuperSize

    SuperSize Been here awhile

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    KTM manual states:
    Step 1 remove footpegs
  6. harcus

    harcus Long timer

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    Looks like you changed the oil to air...Lighter that way...:D
  7. harcus

    harcus Long timer

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    Since spring is here it is time to tune up the BADB. Here is the start...

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    The front wheel resembled a decagon so it was replaced with a rounder version from Warp 9. This is a 1.8 in wide rim vs the stock 2.2 in item. Theoretically much tougher. Also, a new 606 replaced the howling TKC80...

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    And, since the 908 had become a slick, a new Motosteel Teraflex was installed...

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    I read every tire thread on this forum. There was absolute consistance: no one agreed on anything. So, my conclusion was...pay your money & take your chance.

    It will be interesting to see how the T'flex does. These knobs are .76 in high & quite long. Will they stay attached on a 90+ HP BADB? At least it is 1/2 the price of a 908 and they are quieter on pavement that the previous combo. As always, this is a test...

    PS: I have a plow on order. :D
  8. HickOnACrick

    HickOnACrick Groovinator

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    Is Warp 9 making wheels for BADBs now?
  9. frog

    frog Long timer

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    With 908s costing more then an expensive hooker I'll be interested in what you think of it.
  10. harcus

    harcus Long timer

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    So to speak. They got the DID rim from Buchanans & anodized it here, laced it on. Nice work, nice wheel. The wheel & tire all balanced in within 1/2 oz. I think they have long term plans to fab their own rims but they are not there yet. Kevin says he has been running this same rime for some time on his BADBs & they seem to stand up better than anything else.

    So far, so good...:D
  11. harcus

    harcus Long timer

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    You apparently know more about hookers than I but I will keep you posted. :D
  12. a1one

    a1one a1one-numero uno-saucy

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    I googled BADB and the only google hits were Utards and ADVRider regional forums proving you guys are making up this shit up. BADB sounds like 'Bad Boy' or 'Bad Bike' but either seems fitting considering all the lewd and crass postings and
    orange parts namely KTM spread all over this forum. 'Bad' can mean 'good' like we learned from the gangster rappers of past so don't get bent. Pretty soon the Utard thread will have its' own bike gang ebonic is what I am predicting and you're all criminals anyway:huh! Happy Mothers Day brothas
  13. HickOnACrick

    HickOnACrick Groovinator

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    Fix'd...er, I mean...translated to Utardish.
  14. The Walrus

    The Walrus Gone and back again.

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    Bitches, hookers and Big Ass Dirt Bikes (registered trademark by TrailTwister).......

    You FF's been overeducated....and I'm starting to feel at home again.....in the sandbox.....:lol3

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  15. frog

    frog Long timer

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    Did 170 miles today on the 525. Gotta love utah. From this
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    To this
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    And home by 4. :D
  16. fano

    fano here and there

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    So I see you stoped at least twice.:evil
  17. frog

    frog Long timer

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    Unfortunately I stopped more then I wanted. Fing gates. I also forgot my magic potion I drink so I had to stop and eat. :puke1
  18. GISkev

    GISkev wwfsmd?

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    Ryman and Pluric met me at Bryce Canyon after I was released from my obligations there and we rode to Powell and camped out, then up to Escalante, Boulder, Factory Butte, Goblin Valley, Swell, slab home... here's a few teasers, but they're mobile phone pics and you'll want to hold out for the ones Pluric shot on his nice camera!

    Here's the Super Yammer entering the San Raf.
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    ...and Ryman digging L. Collett. (funniest thing... there was this super hot chick pole dancing on a tree, and you notice a bit of her ass in the upper left of this pic. Pretty hot huh?)
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    more later, I gotta go kiss my Momma.:deal We're BBQ-ing chicken and we have a large family...
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  19. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    What a fun weekend!!!:D

    When life gives you hail,

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    Ryan makes wheelies...

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    We hit a black cloud hail storm just getting onto twisty 12. I stopped
    to get a face mask and Ryan had to play on the rain. Oh and in the sun too.

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  20. Kanook

    Kanook Adventure zymologist

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    Walking through Costco this morning buying stuff for a mothers day lunch I was thinking how much I'd rather be staring at your back tire. Glad you got out.