V-Strom Exhaust Question

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Twinner, May 2, 2010.

  1. Twinner

    Twinner Been here awhile

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    Hi folks,

    Doing a bid of research on the topic, I basically narrowed down my choice to two options: The Akrapovic or the Leo Vince.

    I noticed on youtube that some guys have Leo Vince slip-on with ''traditional'' end:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2DWXLGZd3E&feature=related

    while some other have them with the kind of ''conical'' end cap:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXsvB6ZUOnc

    I really like the conical end cap but I am wondering if they are designed for the V-Strom as on Leo Vince's website, it seems like only the ''traditional'' cut is available.

    It does not seem like there is a Carbon Fiber for these either?

    Also, do you need a remap and where is the best place to buy from?

    Your input would be appreciated.

    Pat
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  2. Willbilly

    Willbilly Been here awhile

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    http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shop...tes/TBRSearchResult-Simple-Suz-DL1000-SO.html

    I am waiting for UPS to deliver these to me. I think the main difference is that the Leos and Akras won't need repacking. It also seems like the traditional "pea shooter" style tips are a little quieter (resonate less.)

    Given how lean the Strom runs from the factory, a remap is almost a necessity. I'm going to start by taking mine to a dyno shop and having the ecu reprogrammed, then I might possibly get a Power Commander III USB (for fine tuning.) From what I've read, it looks like it would be a GREAT idea to have the throttle bodies sync'ed either before or during this process. (They are pretty bad from the factory too.)

    Keep us posted on your progress. If I get mine on 1st I'll post my experience right here.

    Will
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  3. mrxinpa

    mrxinpa Just Get Out and Ride !!!

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    And just what's wrong with White Bros??? Just curious as to why you ruled it out right away?
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  4. Twinner

    Twinner Been here awhile

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    The Two Brothers look fantastic but from what I read and heared on various YouTube clips, they are very loud.

    I really like the deep yet smooth sound that seems to come out from the Leos and the option to put on/off the baffles is you think they are too loud or quiet.
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  5. Willbilly

    Willbilly Been here awhile

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    I just finished installing my 2Bros M2s about an hour ago. After a short test ride I'm about to order the powertips to tame the noise a little bit. In retrospect, it would have made more sense to get the Akras or the leos. (do the Leos ever need repacking?)
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  6. ggrjr

    ggrjr Been here awhile

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    Go for Remus. I love mine, just loud enough, with a nice deep tone. IMOP the quality is way above most of the others.
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  7. Vt-Stromer

    Vt-Stromer Been here awhile

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    I really like the stock pipe. Something to be said for sneaking around on dirt roads. Nobody notices the stock strom, and that's ok by me.
    :evil
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  8. Kawidad

    Kawidad Long timer

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    Because White Brothers is no longer?:evil


    They went out of business and were bought out by Vance and Hines.
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  9. GS Bones

    GS Bones Long timer

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    I know of one guy (Wee, not Vee) who put on a Remus slip on with K and N airfilter and did not do a remap, and has had no issues at all. I would think it would make things way too lean, but he has a ton of miles on his Wee and it runs smooth, no problems.


    I have had Two Bros. systems on two other bikes and I found them to be very nice. Loud enough to sound nice, but not loud, at all, overall. Just a nice deep tone. I liked the fact that the Two Bros. ones I had made for deep tone more than loudness. Those bikes were a VFR800 and an FZ1. That VFR was the best sounding bike on the planet with the TB.

    I don't think TB makes one for the Wee, but if they did, it would likely be my choice. I thought the fit and finish, especially for the cost was outstanding.

    I never did dyno those bikes, and both made enough power that I didn't care, as long as no low end torque was lost....and it wasn't, based on my seat of the pants dyno.


    Bones
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  10. 805gregg

    805gregg Long timer

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    I've got Two Bros on my ST1300 too loud, and Staintuned on my V ok, but the nicest sounding exhaust I've heard was Leo Vince on a V.
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  11. Kawidad

    Kawidad Long timer

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    I have the Leos on my vee and like them. I have the baffles inserted, so they are not too loud. Nice sound, but not too loud. I did have to re-map the FI because the new pipes made an already too lean bike, waaay too lean. Leo said you don't have to re-map, but in my case that was not true at all.
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  12. brucifer

    brucifer Long timer

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    Speaking of exhaust for the V-Strom....Anyone know what the difference between the early Stroms ('02-'03) and the '04 and later versions are regarding the mufflers? I'm looking at aftermarket for an '03 and so far, I've only found listings for '04 on. Thanks.
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  13. DrDale

    DrDale Been here awhile

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    Ditto. Nice not to wake everyone in the neighborhood or campground when you're arriving late or leaving early....
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  14. Willbilly

    Willbilly Been here awhile

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    Installed my 2-bros powertips yesterday. They make quite a difference. There is less of a roar now. (Less resonance) On the road they're very nice but they are still a little loud for the driveway or parking lot. (good thing I actually RIDE)

    YMMV
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  15. Zapp22

    Zapp22 ZAPP - Tejas

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    i think if you study this topic thoroughly you'll find that the performance of the stock setup cannot be beat. at the end of it all, you'll produce more noise, less power, and lower MPG
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  16. Bultaco206

    Bultaco206 Back-to-back motos suck

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    Not exactly. The parent that owned both WB and V&H cut costs and merged the two. With WB exiting the distribution business a few years ago - there was no sense doubling-up on efforts and the WB name lives on on V&H-made items.
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  17. garandman

    garandman Wandering Minstrel

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    I tried to start, "blip" and rev (to 3,000rpm) the stock and Akrapovic slip on (which actually replaces everything but the header pipe) so you can hear the difference. Frankly, the Akropovic is not very loud. It sounds best with large throttle openings at lower rpms. Weight savings is noticeable - 12 lbs up relatively high. Installation is very straightforward, took me about 1 1/2 hours without rushing and including removal/reinstall of luggage rack.

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  18. precarious

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    Staintune.
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  19. FlyingPig

    FlyingPig Adventurer

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    I recently installed the full LV system on my 08.

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    Just be aware that the exhaust will not clear most skid plates.

    There is a great tone with the baffle out, and with the baffle in, I don't worry about neighbors when I wake up in the morning as it's very reasonable with the baffle in.

    And before anybody asks, no I did not retune the bike. Not really lacking in power anywhere, no hesitations or anything that warrants me spending a couple hundred on the PC3 and tune.
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  20. bigphish

    bigphish Curiously Satisfying

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    +1 again. Besides, loud pipes lead to pirate wear. Not that there is anything wrong with that, arhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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