Isn't the peg position quite different? As I have been researching this, I think starting with a Versys gives the advantage in ergo's due to the pegs. JD - Did you ever use a 650r frame or have they all been Versys frames? How was the peg location difference for standing? LD comfort? Regarding power. MCN Performance Index lists the following: ER-6n - 65 rwhp; 44 rw torque (in-lbs) 650r ('06) - 61 rwhp; 43 rw tq 650r ('07) - 63 rwhp; 43 rw tq Versys ('07) - 59 rwhp; 42 rw tq I find it hard to wrap my head around the Ninja's 3-6 hp increase being that much of a difference. And, their reviews said that the Versys felt stronger/faster in day to day driving because the toque was greater lower down the rev range. I rode a Versys at the Kawi Demo Days and it seemed similar power-wise to my memory of the Wee I had (was riding an ST1300 at the time - so . . . ), but having never ridden a Ninja myself, I'm Thanks!