V9 Bobber

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  1. brstar

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    Gonna overlook the faults for now.
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  2. JustKip

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    Wish those had a bigger fuel tank
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  3. Bobmws

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    Not with that seat!
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  4. brstar

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    There is more tank than seat padding if you know what I am saying.
    Corbin have a seat for $473 plus tax though I am not sure I should be paying their tax.
    Buying of their web site is not so simple either.
    I wonder if Guzzi have a more traditional version of the V9 in the pipeline? maybe bigger tank?
    When you see the 5 oclock shadow trendy cool dudes in their ads you know the stylists have won the seat design war. :D
    But I figured all the machines I looked at are compromise in so many ways so I got I can live with for a while.
    Besides it promises to be a hoot running solo.
    The airhawke cushion is going on it straight away though.
    The v9 won over the v7 even though the power torque figures are close.
    It was 2 things really
    1/ peak torque quoted at 3000 revs rather than 4,900 revs
    3/ The drive shaft has a pair of uni/ constant volocity joints to allow for a wider 16" wheel with the same at the front.
    Be a lot of changes large and small to make a good outfit but I felt that is the norm anyway.
    Now to design a sidecar body in keeping wth the tank design?
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  5. Wolfgang55

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    Sure like that big ass front tire.
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  6. DRONE

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    That's a 130/90-16 if anybody was wondering. Mathematically, that gives you a 117mm sidewall height. Compare that to a typical 110/80-19 on a BMW GS rig with a sidewall height of 88mm. So, yeah, technically speaking Wolfgang is correct--it's a big ass tire!
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  7. brstar

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    I hope your not casting asspertions
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    Kustkip.
    Could it be a different engine?
    4 Valve to make 80hp?
    Not to worry I should be picking mine up in the next couple of days.
    Actually it is a totally different machine even if the power plant is basically the same.
    It may mean there is more power hiding in mine which is quite possible.
    Guzzi for sure tuned it for low down torque.
    More of interest to me is if Guzzi put a lower 1st gear ratio in the adventure model using the same gearbox.
    Maybe maybe not.
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  10. JustKip

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    Not much info on the concept bike. MG claims 80 HP, and it's rumored to have 5 valve heads, but so far it's all speculation. They say it's definitely going to be produced, but that could well be more than a year out. One thing is certain, though; if it really puts out 80 HP, you can forget about those simple Moto Guzzi valve adjustments.
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  11. brstar

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    Is it 5 valve or just the Guzzi style of designation?
    I:E V5 as against my V9.
    5 valve is a bit 1980's Yamaha.
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  12. DRONE

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    Moto Guzzi USA has given it it's own page on their website--

    Quite the eye-catching design!

    Apologies to the O.P. for continuing the thread digression.
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  13. brstar

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    My 1st Italian.

    20 klm on the clock.

    So far so good.

    I like the feel of riding it.

    Seriously I suppose its a mixed bag,

    Clacks quietly through the gears.

    Rumbles vibrates and shakes a bit like a motorbike should.

    Holds a steady speed with the flywheel weight, thats nice.

    The seat and tank need to be inflated up to full size.

    There is an odd rattle at idle

    Mind you there is a sheet of foam sittng on the Kayak behind I bought for random jobs like this.

    So a visit to the local leather place maybe in order.

    Was quoted $550 for an extra front wheel which is a definate maybe.

    Lets see? plust tyre & bearings etc etc, ouch.

    The tank shape may well be the inspiration for a sidecar body as in the general lines and overall shape.

    The dealer said there is more power than quoted due to a software? update.

    Now back to the big paving job in my yard.
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  14. DRONE

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    Wow! That looks great! Thanks for dragging it out of the garage to take the pic in daylight.

    The odd rattle at idle is a hallmark of the Moto Guzzi clutch. Welcome to Luigi's world!

    The common wisdom for most brand new MG's is you need 15,000km to break in the engine. Gets smoother and smoother the older it gets but definitely very noticeable those first 15.

    Will the front brakes be up to the job after you add the sidecar?
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  15. Eddieb

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    16" front wheel? can you even buy tyres in that size anymore?
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    Neat looking scoot.........major score

    Did I say I love that fat ass tire.
    It should ignore the rain grooves on some interstates
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  17. brstar

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    Thanks Drone. I looked/drooled at a white V7 when I was about 15 in a shop window in a place called Nathalia (not a very big town) so took a while to get one similar.
    I should actually drag it down to the beach/boat ramp and really do some stirring.
    Will it stop? I suppose you mean without the word sudden being part of the sentence? (been there done that)
    More discs would be better for sure in an emergency.
    But while Western Australia stretches from Mexico to Canada for size the highest mountain is just over 1000 meters so we dont have a huge amount of steepness about.
    The other thing is the powers that be by default, (that would be the peoples fault/default)
    They think they look good by making vehicles travel ever so slow anywhere.
    Fines and or vehicle confiscation/destruction apply.
    And though the Guzz will run a bit faster than a Ural which to my knowledge has a 295mm disk and twin piston caliper.
    The Guzz has a 4 piston caliper on a 320mm disk & abs.
    Probably enough for one or two hard stops but not for hard charging and/or tailgating.
    Also I tend to leave more room curtesy of truck experience and age.
    With that waffled, and it does not hurt my head thinking to hard, a third disk may go on the third wheel.
    Haha with the Ural as the standard,reaching the height is not an issue.

    Eddieb
    16" are common on some Harley's still and other cruisers etc.
    https://www.jaxtyres.com.au/tyres/sizes/16-inch/165-40r16 @ $99 each.
    There are other options but that increases the number of turns per Klm by 102.
    Which should make it easier on the machine with an added sidecar/load.

    Wolfgang55 Is that 1955?
    Rain grooves?
    Whats rain?
    Tram lines were an issue in Melbourne as a young buck but while we do get rain the only rain grooves we have here are on either side of the road called ditches.
    The fat tyres are plus for future sidecar work.
    The specs say the trail is 116mm the Vstrom is 150mm.
    May make things easier?
    Could I do the traditional Guzzi Trail reduction using two drilled plates to move the forks forward?
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  18. rider33

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    that is one nice looking bike. I looked hard at those & ultimately went with the more classic lines of the V7iii but there is an elemental quality to the V9's, straight & to the point. And, I'm guessing those big tires can likely float over just about anything this side of an ATV, 'enjoy.
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  19. brstar

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    Sidecar body design ideas.
    Was gassin with the dealer about what shape the sidecar body should be and the concept of matching the fuel tank style was raised.
    It would be very boat like I think.
    If I can get my mate involved with his CAD skills versus my old school cad skills.
    (Yes being a card till your bored here.)
    So as to cut the shapes from sheet Ali using a computer driven laser cutter.
    Maybe even having tabs and notches.
    Then even I could fit tab and slot b together so to speak.
    The tank has more rounded edges and gentle compound curves.
    But perhaps close enough.
    OK tank pics now.

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    Of course the plan view would differ in proportion with the length being 2.5 or 3 times the width.
    The side elevation would be similar perhaps.
    ?
    Oh well back to my paving project.
    2' square by 2" thick concrete slabs don't seem to get any lighter over the years.
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  20. brstar

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    If I was just going to ride a solo bike the V7111 was my choice to.
    The 16" looks cool but the 19" front would steer much better in turns solo.
    Still a motor and two wheels!
    Whats not to like?
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