V9 Bobber

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by brstar, Dec 18, 2017.

  1. brstar

    brstar Long timer

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    Ok the nonsense and wishful thinking start.....er resume.
    With a little help from rider33 in a land far far away I now have the secret to the different gearing between V7 and V9.
    Primary drive ratios.
    18/23 gears V7 1:1.277
    21/25 gears V9 1:1.190
    Some road testers seemed to think that the V9 had a higher 1st and 6th.
    But in fact it is 1st through 6th because of the primary drive variation.
    I wonder if they can be changed over and more importantly if I can lay my hands on the bits for reasonable rates.
    Anyone want a faster V7?
    Something to discuss with the local dealer or online bike wreckers?
    Now don't all shout once will you.
    More paving for now.
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  2. pops

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    Nice new ride there mate.
    They do like the mud. P8280137.jpg
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  3. brstar

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    Ha ha I was explaining to my brother inlaw today that the cafe strip pose machine has in its future some good old dirt roads.
    I may try to keep a little more distance from the hoon in front than yopur pic but just the same.
    One day the bike will never look pristine again.
    Had a good day yesterday buying and selling.
    Bought.
    A givi screen (A660?) it looks factory and sweet for $80
    A pair of Givi keyless panniers (41 ltr) near new for $300.
    Oh and the guy with the panniers had a pair of staintune mufflers from a 1000 Vstrom that he cut of to fit some other cans he liked the sound of.
    Not going to diss the bloke who let me have them for $150.
    Personally I think he is a champ.
    Oh I said I was going to be rude just before I offered him a $100 for them.
    He agreed I was rude>
    And sold a covered trailer I built in 2008 out of bits and pieces for $1500. I:E the neighbours patio etc etc.
    Felt pretty good about that.
    What did not feel good was the bike seat.
    I am thinking that a large sum of money time and effort is going to be thrown for the benefit of the comfort of my posterior.
    I mean seriously I now I had a fair bit in my back pack but not to be able to manage a 90k trip in one go?
    Sad very sad.
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  4. pops

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    A mate of mine got his seat redesigned with a gell insert, best thing ever, he said?
    You did very well with those panniers .
    A leaner sidecar would look sweet on that style of bike.
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  5. Bar None

    Bar None Old School Dude

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    I was interest in the V9 until I saw that you had to be a Hipster to own one. That eliminates me so back to the V7.
    Just kidding, great looking bike.
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  6. brstar

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    Ian the main issue with the seat is the puny size.
    I read different ideas concerning gell inserts, apparently if the seat is made right the gell is more a liability comfort wise.
    Though others use gel to good affect seemingly.
    Jury is out on that.
    Leaner? maybe not this time.
    I am thinking sliding on dirt roads.
    Bar None
    "Neuvo hipster" means has a new a new hip.
    Well hopefully not though mine is not so new now.
    Now the tale a couple of pics tell.
    1st is of the Guzzi Australia site and shows the 2016 model aka mine that I got as a discounted last year model. (well now 2yrs by calender)
    The 2nd shows the current bike on the Italian website.
    The pics show where my savings most likely will go. :(
    Seat height? Size? Shape?
    Oh and length if you enclude the two pieces so my cute little wife would hve a place to put her cute little butt for more than a just bearable 15 minutes.
    I think the dealer is back from Chrissie Hols on Monday along with the Givi distributor.
    So will look into a chair wheel and peg setups this week.
    And hopefully sit down with my CAD mate to design a body.
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    Oh and riders foot peg mounts etc.
    I wonder how much.
    If you look close they seem to have changed over to the V7111 peg setup.
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  7. brstar

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    If either of these had been on the West coast rather than 4000klm or more away I would be mounting one up already.
    An old and scruffy DJP came up for sale locally yesterday, then went as it was only $750.
    Shame I went off the DJP look for some reason.
    Still I spent a bit of time with my mate going through the design process this week so looks like I am committed to an Ali body with a unique and hopefully classy shape.
    I do like classy shapes.
    Oh and I ordered a matching Guzzi front wheel, (ouch$$)
    Be away for a few weeks starting in a week. copying Lukes hiating so the wheel maybe here when I get back.
    Shame that Slipper chair on the left is cheap ($1000 on gumtree) and the wheel looks close enough.
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  8. brstar

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    Some bits and pieces arrived at the post office while I was on my Cambodian trip.
    Bought on Gumtree for the princely sum of $25.
    Postage was more.
    Of course it was dumb to believe my fellow man would actually follow through with the deal once the money was transfered to his account.
    But you know people often are true top their word it seems.
    So thanks Phillip from Victoria.


    There are a few bits missing but I just so happen to have them on hand.
    The little catchy thingys. Need one more though.
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    It will take a while to work out what goes where it seems, but Oh well.

    Oh and this Cambodian trips pic of the craziest load.

    Pulled up beside this rig at the lights

    Now here is some engineering.

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    This is called popping the clutch.


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    Concentrate!

    After popping the clutch 6 or 7 times ( along with the front wheel)

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    The eyes swing a little to the right.

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    The head does to.

    Getting ready for the turn.

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    Appropriate hand signals given.

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    Please note the team work here.

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    Now that children is a load worthy of the name.

    What you still bitchin about air/foil heads can do the job?
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  9. Bar None

    Bar None Old School Dude

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    brstar,
    Didn't see any brakes on that post hauling rig.
    And the guy on top is wearing a full face helmet!
    "What you still bitchin about air/foil heads can do the job?":lol3:lol3
    Yep, need at least 2,999 ccs to do the job.
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  10. brstar

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    On my last post there did not seem to be any brakes fitted to the timber hauler as Bar None pointed out.
    Phnom Penh is all river flats pretty much with the emphasis on flat.
    Unless the trailer has working brakes.
    You have to admire the detirmination and skill required to navigate heavy traffic on that beast.

    Ok another Gumtree find.
    There are relatively few options it seems here in WA when it comes to accessories for odd ball bikes.
    So will attempt to make this seat blend in a little.
    I think by the time I have the panniers fitted it will look reasonable.
    It will raise up a little at the front and set down a little at the back when I find some rubber bumper inserts.

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    More acerage for my acher age.

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    Shouldn't be any confusion at all.
    This seat has the gell insert already though it will still not be an all day seat.
    The Triumph frames are wider than the Guzz but I can see how to adapt it fairly easily.
    (famous last words)
    If I can make this seat work in the shorter term (say 10yrs or less :jack) then I can send the original or this one to the day long people in the US.
    Or at least have more comfort and wife room while I think on it.
    Wonder how my mate is getting on with the sidecar plans.
    Also I found a part number for Moto Guzzi rearsets to fit the V9.
    Have asked my dealer for a price.
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  11. Bar None

    Bar None Old School Dude

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    ^^^^^
    brstar,
    A Triumph seat on a Guzzi? Have you no shame? :dirtdog
    El Duce is rolling over in his grave.:lol3:lol3
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  12. brstar

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    A 24 or so liter tank on fleabay.
    Would need paint etc etc.
    Wonder how it would go?
    Non fuel injected tank so would need to a sub tank to fit the fuel pump in.
    I like the idea of a sub tank together with a serious glass sight fuel filter.
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  13. brstar

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    https://tourandride.com/index.php?o...tegory&virtuemart_category_id=1165&Itemid=189
    I got all excited when I found this website.
    Yes I can replace the missing bits for4 my bargain Givi wingracks.
    No the very nice company does not ship outside the USA.
    Talk about a dampener.
    Pity they have all the little goodies so I though grab a few extras for old mate Justin and all is well.
    Or not.


    Z124 ATTACHMENT CLAMP
    Z124 $12.15


    $4.05
    $36.45
    Z128 BOLT CAPS COVERS KIT
    Z128 $4.95


    $1.65
    $14.85
    Z125 MUSHROOM SPACERS
    Z125 $9.00


    $2.00
    $18.00
    Z126 RUBBER BUFFERS
    Z126 $3.60


    $0.80
    $7.20
    Z126A THICKER RUBBER BUFFERS
    Z126A $3.60


    $0.80
    $7.20



    Product prices result:
    $9.30 $83.70

    Any other dealers?
    No no chemicals please.
    Givi USA won't even let me view their website.
    Not impressed with that for sure.
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  14. Ridn3

    Ridn3 Lopsidd

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    Since when? I have had complete Givi stuff for years on 2 bikes, never had a problem getting parts. Their customer service does leave a lot to be desired though. I pieced together two sidebags, a trunk and a wingrack and wanted to mount them to my mono shock airhead. They did not have a specific mounting kit for my bike, so I asked which universal mounting kit would be closest and they said that since they had informed me that it would not fit, that they would not except anything back and would not offer suggestions/advice. Amm, what does universal mean? BTW, mounted the bags 17 years ago without much trouble and have not had any problems., about 100,000 miles.
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  15. brstar

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    Ridn3
    The website issue is about regional marketing.
    Something you guys in the worlds biggest market may not notice.
    But something smaller markets do.
    Thanks Google. Not.
    The exchange rate can only account for 25-30% of the difference here.
    Any ways I delved a little deeper in the website of the local supplier (4000 KLM away) in Sydney.
    And buried somewhere in the middle of many pages I found this which I will order shortly for lack of choice.

    http://shop.sydneycitymotorcycles.com.au/Basket
    Item Details Cost Quantity Price [​IMG]

    GIVI E115F - 3 POINT PANNIER MOUNTING KIT
    SKU: E115F
    $29.95
    Plus $10 postage makes it $40 in round figures



    https://tourandride.com/cases-and-a...onents/e115f-hardware-kit-wingrack-arm-detail
    E115F HARDWARE KIT WINGRACK ARM
    GIVI E115F

    Sales price: $10.80 With free shipping on orders over $50 and my order would have been more.
    Though of course I would expect to pay more for international shipping.
    The small things often get air freighted and get here quicker than local in country suppliers can deliver.
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    You mentioned fitting kits something I will make my self, I think this time.
    Mainly because I am getting more set up to fabricate using smaller tube sizes.
    So the coming sidecar, and bike accesssories hopefully will be home built looking a bit professional.
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  16. brstar

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  17. brstar

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    Dropped the Wee of for a service....
    Yeah I know my mate already gave a verbal about not doing my own.

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    Then peddled home via Rockingham forshore... some days you just have to do it.
    Bought some fat butt seats for the peddlie so the old couple "may" get out on it more.

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    Went out on the Guzzi then and spotted this at a bike shop/dealer.

    It was supposed to be 38 Celsius in Perth today.
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  18. fireflyr

    fireflyr Been here awhile

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    Can you use a V7 tank and seat? I think Todd at Guzzitech has done it.

    I believe the T3 tank tunnel is narrower then the V7/9 tunnel. It would be a lot of fabrication.
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  19. brstar

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    Pretty $ure the v7'$ $eat and tank $should fit easy enough.
    $something $ay$ it won't happen.
    New Guzzi front mudguard $530.
    Matching guards just went of the agenda as well.
    The Moto Guzzi sidecar wheel (front wheel)
    Is being held up (3weeks apparently ) at customs.
    Good info on the T3 tank. Thanks.
    My local Piaggio (Guzzi) dealer deals mostly in scooters And currently only has 2 V7's on the floor. So no older bikes about to measure.
    I suppose I should just pull mine off and measure it.
    Then ask online for comparative Tonti frame tank measurements.
    Ether way I will need a sub tank to locate the fuel pump. Maybe easier (cheaper) to make a bigger sub tank.
    For style the T3 tank would blend with the thicker less painful seat (the Triumph seat is wider to).
    Probably the measurement I need 1st is tank length so as to locate the bigger seat lengthwise.
    Having thought that aloud, I will try this week to make the Triumph seat fit.
    Had some ideas now as how.
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  20. brstar

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    Triumph seat foam and base.

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    The foam is nice and flat on top.
    The base is at least long enough for two.

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    But the base is all lumpy, not much chance of long distance comfort.

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    The base with Ali additions, yes the bolts got cut down.

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    Bottom of the Triumph foam with random hollows.
    It has been a slow process working out how to go about it.
    So far the foam is an inch or so higher with bits infilled underneath also in a harder foam.
    Think that's a mistake so either it will be swapped for softer or some gel pads I have around.
    Also I will glue some foam onto the sides and shape it with the trusty carving knife.
    Tried shaping with the 5 inch grinder and a sanding pad.
    Ok if I can hold steady but there maybe a better way.
    The local foam and furniture repair has a neat big band saw. Hmmm.
    Have to head to work tomorrow for a week or so on a mine shut.
    How inconsiderate.
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