Vancouver to Arctic Circle - doable in 9 days??

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  1. RblueR

    RblueR Intrepid Brother Bob

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    Thinking of riding (the first week in June) from Vancouver to the A.C. and back in 9 days on my R1150R. Can it be done? Would like to hear from those who done the Dempster on a street bike.

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  2. Deuce

    Deuce Crazy Canuck

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    It's 2400 kms. to Whitehorse, one way. There and back in 9 days = +500 kms each day. :1drink
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  3. RblueR

    RblueR Intrepid Brother Bob

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    2400kms - that's crazy man, why they put that town so far away.:evil
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  4. CalgaryKLR

    CalgaryKLR Been here awhile

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    Take it slow on the Dempster, can get bad quick. Long days, but long sunlight if you don't mind riding all day. A different world. You'll see lots of others on the same path...

    Ride safe.
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  5. wadeeb

    wadeeb n00b with a dream

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    keeping in mind that Whitehorse is nowhere near the Arctic circle :norton

    Vancouver to Eagle plains is 3258km according to Google maps which is more like 720+ km per day. On the Dempster on street tires you could easily have to take 2 days to get to the circle and back if you run into bad weather. Its 408 each way (from Dawson to Eagle, the circle is another 35km from Eagle) and there is no service. The Corners burned down so you need to go to Dawson for fuel now. Close to 900km return for the Dempster portion.

    If you allow for 2 days on the Dempster (and you should) then you are looking at Vancouver to Dawson return in 7 days = 2900km which is 830+ km per day.

    Personally it sounds like too much of a push, but I tend to try and plan less miles as I get older.
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  6. Deuce

    Deuce Crazy Canuck

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    I knew that. Trying to make the point that it is a hell of a long ride just to do Whitehorse and back. He would be better off doing Wash., Idaho and western Montana. Nicer roads, better weather and no bugs.

    I really don't know what the obsession is with going to Alaska etc. My Yankee riding buddy is always bugging me to go but I have no desire what so ever to do it. And yes I have been up north. Yellowknife, Mould Bay, Prince Patrick Island. Just not on two wheels or 4. :1drink
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  7. Commuter Boy

    Commuter Boy Long timer

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    Not a problem. You can really eat a lot of miles fast on the lower portion, especially with the long days available in the summer.

    You will NOT likely be able to keep that sort of pace up further north, you'll need to ride the conditions you find.
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  8. roglsa

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    Ya if you ride alot. Last june, I took my time going up but not on the way back. I've done an Iron Butt run on every bike I've owned. Since I bought this bike for this trip I figured good time as any. I left Dawson City Saturday morning, drove to arctic circle and was pulling into Vancouver Tuesday night. I was lucky and had perfect weather and was able to drive the Dempster at 110+ kph. It will be the only variable you have no control over. So it is possible to do easily but... best laid plans and all the rest they say. good luck if you try.
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  9. Sask_pirate

    Sask_pirate Been here awhile

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    did edmonton to inuvik in 3.5 days, if you are only going to the AC crossing thats just 1/2 - 1 hr out of Eagle plains.

    vcr to watson lake 1 day
    watson lake to dawson sity 1 day
    dawson city to AC and back to eagle plains 1 day

    oh and the f650 had street tires
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  10. Deuce

    Deuce Crazy Canuck

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    And your ass had callouses :lol3 :1drink
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  11. nvdlboy

    nvdlboy Been here awhile

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    Left North Vancouver June 3, 2012 - Day 1 PG (via Duffy Lake), Day 2 Liard River Hotsprings (lunch in FSJ), Day 3 Whitehorse, Day 4 Chicken AK (via Dawson City) - had lunch at the beginning of the Dempster, but we weren't going that way (a friend crashed his KTM 640A on the Dempster a few years ago in mid-June - broke his collar bone and had to ship the bike back from Inuvik). Friday June 8 discovered as we were leaving Whitehorse that all roads heading south were flooded, washed out, etc. Even Haynes Junction flooded, so grabbing the ferry from AK to Rupert wasn't an option either. Long story short, flew home to Vancouver on June 9 and my bike arrived back on July 4 via truck. We figured that we would make it back in 8 days without doing the Dempster and were back in 7 only because we had to fly and ship the bikes later. I think many of us get caught up in trying to get somewhere in a limited time, which can lead to poor choices and very long days in the saddle.
    Can you do it? Maybe, but it may not be the most enjoyable week on a bike. YMMV
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  12. RblueR

    RblueR Intrepid Brother Bob

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    Wow! Thank you all for the info, there have been some very impressive rides North. So it comes down to "do I or don't I, my old bones will decide.
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  13. MCP

    MCP Been here awhile

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    The portion Van to Whitehorse, would you do that again in 3 days?

    I'm hoping to go to Alaska in June, and I was thinking of riding to PR, and taking the ferry. I hate ferries.

    I estimated 1 day to PG, but how was the ride between PG and Whitehorse? Don't mean to step on the OP's toes here.

    thanks
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    Shirker Been here awhile

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    Yes, well, there's a lot of Horsemen on that stretch too, here's the official distance 2,005 kms and speed limit time:




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  15. nvdlboy

    nvdlboy Been here awhile

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    It was a very long day from PG to Liard River Hotsprings (~ 1200 kms?) we left PG before 8 am and got to LRH around 10 pm. The next day to Whitehorse was only tough in that it was a torrential downpour for about 5 or 6 hours. Would I do it again? Tough call, but by the end of day 2 I'm not sure any of us were making the best or safest riding decisions. We usually try to stick to about 600 kms/day on average, but have sometimes had to push on for 800 to 1000 because we "have" to get somewhere (seems to happen about once/trip).
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  16. MCP

    MCP Been here awhile

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    and my comfort limit for a day is about 600 km so, I'll either add another day to the route or stick to the ferry.

    Last question - to anyone in the know - it looks to me whether you take PG to Fort Nelson and on to the junction of #1 & #37 or PG on #16 to #37 and up to #1 its the same mileage.

    What route is more interesting - scenery and road quality?

    Thanks



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  17. triplenickel

    triplenickel Long timer

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    Stewart Cassiar by a mile, tons of amazing sidetrips along there that are a shame to miss also.
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  18. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    I was gonna try this a last summer when I lived in Victoria, taking 11 days to Prudhoe Bay and back. I believe my math at the time had me going 9800+kms. I said frig that, but I should of taken the opportunity to drive up there with the family and taken a few weeks.
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  19. Overland Journal

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    I agree the Stewart Cassiar route is awesome.

    The other thing you need to be aware of is the ridiculous amount of wildlife out there in the summer. Even last Spring when we went up, there were already Moose and Deer and Cariboo and Muskox and every damn thing on 4 legs running out onto the road.

    Long days in the saddle make you tired. You need your wits about you with all the animals up there. Especially late in the day when they start moving around.

    If i was going to do an epic BC ride in the summer, over 9 days, I'd go East to Hope, follow 1 up the Fraser Canyon to 100 Mile, over to PG, left towards Vanderhoof (past the house I grew up in on the Hart Hwy), then over to Smithers, Terrace, Rupert, take the ferry to Port Hardy, ride the Malahat down the island, and then take the other ferry from Nanaimo down to Horseshoe Bay.

    9 days would be perfect. 4 days up, 1 day on the ferry, 3 days down, 1 day to deal with the inevitable something going wrong.

    Hell, now that I've typed it, I think I may do it this summer.

    Cheers

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  20. canucksurfdog

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    Went up the cassiar last July. 7 days vanc to pruhdoe bay. 6 days back on the alcan to vancouver. Some 500km days,some 800km days. Day 12 was toad river to pg..1001km. The overnight stops/daily mileage is partially determined by accommodations. Camping gives a bit more flexibility. Would have liked to spend a bit more time kicking back in places like Dawson city. Ideally the 13 days should have been 16-17 return.
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