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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Hayduke, Feb 18, 2009.
Unusual to see Merrikan van in Paris, non?
I'd like to see this in its' pirme!
push me pull ya
Just saw this over in FM. Not connection. Just thought it was cool.
2014 Transit. Now with more diesel!
Now yer talking!!
Man, if I had more time and more money.....
No kidding. That would be a great project.
It'll be interesting to see what the ecoboost engine does in it!
".... and all engines will be paired with six-speed automatic transmissions."
I get the boo! However I get the reasoning. No fleet would want one since they would be driven by abusive drivers and need a new clutch every few months. Anyone who lives in a big city would likely not want with the stop-and-go traffic. So the market for standard transmissions would not be huge, so why import them? I get it, though I wouldn't buy one I wish others could.
As I understand it the Transit vans in Europe have been offered with stick shifts for years, and still are.
I really hate automatic transmissions but you can’t even buy a lot of new cars or trucks in the USA with a standard transmission anymore. That just ain’t right.
Manual transmissions seem to last forever even with zero maintenance. I admit that I did have to change the clutch on my old snow plowin’ 1971 Bronco last year. It was a fleet vehicle from new where I worked. Had a hard life from new, then I got it in ‘76 or ‘77 for plowing snow & it’s life got a lot tougher. Original clutch, had seen 40 years of very hard use. It would still be in there if one of the three pressure plate finger bolts had not broke.
Pic to clarify that if you want to see it.
The clutch disk was overdue anyway.
Edit: Fixed link to clutch pic
Right, there are no big cities with stop and go traffic in Europe.
I think it's more of a cultural problem. North Americans in general did not grow up with small
cars that had manual transmissions so the auto makers don't feel the need to change.
Your parents and their parents grew up with sticks in pretty much everything. It wasn't till the 50s/60s that automagics took over.
Watch Top Gear (UK) lots of the cars (till just this last season or two) are/were manuals. Most of the low-end stuff on Fifth Gear is still a manual trans.
If the Brits can do it...
I wanna row my own thankyouverymuch.
But GP640 does have a point. There are now a lot of people that cant drive a stick shift car. That don't seem right either.
Even some that I *think* can drive a stick shift are completely baffled when faced with a Three on the tree. Seen em!
Here is something I saw thats even worse.
Pulled in to a local MC dealer & noticed a guy on a bike in a parking lot across the street & one lot down. May have had a friend in a car with him. I was wondering what the guy was doing when a MC shop employee walks up to me & says the guy had just bought a new sport bike. When it came time for him to ride his new bike away from the shop he just kicked it into gear. Didnt know that he had to use the clutch. Sad. Very sad.
Got 11:30 to spare?
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Hey, I'm not saying I don't want a manual. My parents never owned a manual and the last one my dad
drove was a Willys Jeep when he was in the artillery. My grandfather owned automatics as soon as he could
and most of the Ramblers he sold at his dealership had autos.
Now back to vans....
I agree- back in Europe I killed only 1 clutch in a VW van, but that was due to overwork. An automatic transmission would've died much sooner.
I can see why some folks like the automatics, nothing wrong with that, but would be nice if they'd see nothing wrong with my wish to drive a stick.
After getting my first van in Canada I didn't know what to do with my left foot and right hand, I can't even rest my hand on the shifter
Too bad, I really hoped they'd provide the diesel with a manual... Now I'm not sure whether to wait one more year before selling my E350, or shall I wait in the hopes that Iveco is brought over. Although those vans are too overenginereed to compete on price with the Sprinte/Transit, they'll probably bring Ducatos.
I rent quite a few vehicles for work, so I test as many models as the rental companies have. I tried the Escape with the 2.0 Eco, and while the drive was OK for an SUV, the mileage was not. With sane driving, empty car but me, I got about 26mpg. With more spirited driving, same load, same route, different ambient temps but not by much, the mileage went down to 22mpg. Now load the thing with few people and luggage, and one should expect not much higher than 22mpg- highway.
I can't see how I'd be happy with an Ecoboost engine in a van, but then perhaps my expectations are much higher than others' because I got spoiled by the better mileage one gets with vehicles in Europe.