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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Hayduke, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

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    2wd utility body pickup, 1999. This is really stop and go city driving though, I don't expect much in the way of mileage from it.

    I was just reading about the engine options on the 2014 Transit van. . . . . sounds nice. I'm pretty interested in that 3.2 diesel, but as good as gas engines are these days, it might be that the base v6 is a better option for city driving (with all the starts and stops).
  2. Hayduke

    Hayduke ///SAFETY THIRD/// Super Moderator

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    I never really do stop and go city driving with my van; it's about 4 blocks to the highway, then rolling... Also, a friend of mine has a 7.3 in a pickup, and his mileage isn't nearly as good, but I believe his is geared lower. I have the tallest gearing available, plus larger wheels and tires, so it is just loping at 65mph.
  3. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

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    How much is just loping? I think I have fairly high gearing, I don't hit 2k rpm until about 70mph. Seems like around town, my transmission is slipping all the time. . . I had it rebuilt about 8,000 miles ago, but it still doesn't seem like it uses much of the torque of the motor.

    I have a friend with a E250 and a gas v8, works and lives in the same areas, van always full of electrical stuff, I think he is happy to see anything above 10 mpg.
  4. Hayduke

    Hayduke ///SAFETY THIRD/// Super Moderator

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    Not sure; I don't have a tach. It won't shift into overdrive until over 60, though, even when taking it really easy.

    It also has a mild "chip" tune, that really changed how it shifts; it's very crisp with not much slipping at all. 290,000 miles on this transmission. I bought the van from Neduro, and he really thinks the chip is easier on the tranny.
  5. Ko

    Ko Observant as never

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    The NV I believe has only 10ft inside.

    With the raised roof van I got 20mpg only once or twice- once more likely, I could check my mileage log for more accuracy. But is has teh 4.1 gearing, it pulls quite nicely, not that I need that damn it... Towed with it just once thus far...

    When I was using a van for work I noticed that weight played a funny role- empty to about 1000lb gouged the mileage 2-4mpg, everything above that weight didn't seem to count. Speed is also a factor, d'oh... :lol3, but for in town work that didn't count. I used to get around 15-16mpg, summer fuel, in town with a mildly loaded van- 3k lb or so.

    Your PSD is different than the one in vans, in vans is much detuned. And there's also variability within engines, plus the different ends, etc :huh

    Ko
  6. Ko

    Ko Observant as never

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    :eek1 On my vans, not chipped, it goes in overdrive around 45, definitely before 50mph. It seems counterproductive to better mileage to wait longer for OD, no?

    Ko
  7. Hayduke

    Hayduke ///SAFETY THIRD/// Super Moderator

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    It's RPM's are too low below 60mph to kick into overdrive. (Maybe I'm confused; maybe it's 55mph; it's been awhile since I drove it). If I'm accelerating, it doesn't kick in until even later.
  8. Ko

    Ko Observant as never

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    From an RPM perspective it makes sense- but then you have different gears/tires, that might explain the difference. I was thinking the RPMs are higher, but it's the other way around.

    Ko
  9. Hayduke

    Hayduke ///SAFETY THIRD/// Super Moderator

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    I believe I have 3.55 gearing, and the tires are quite a bit taller. I'd actually like to go to lower gearing, since we do tow a travel trailer fairly often, but when not towing it is nice.
  10. Florida Lime

    Florida Lime Long timer

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    I keep checking the Ford site, and agree on the red.

    Only problem is, when can you actually get one ? Ford originally said it would be a 2013 model, then it was a 2014 model available in the fall of 2013, now it says early 2014.

    My '95 E150 might not last until then. :lol3
  11. Ko

    Ko Observant as never

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    You do know the above picture is a Nissan, right :lol3

    And don't worry, what's few more months to the 18 or so years for your E150... I wonder if the delay has something to do with the diesel version...

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  12. Ko

    Ko Observant as never

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    Or Duratorq, as everybody else knows it. I was curious for some mileage numbers on this engine, and here's some:

    "The 3.2-litre engine delivers 147 kW at 3 000 r/min and 470 Nm of peak torque between 1 500 and 2 750 r/min, making it one of the strongest diesel engines in its class. Performance is by no means eye-watering, but if you keep an eye on the speedo while planting the accelerator, youÂ’ll find the Ranger picks up its proverbial skirt quite readily. Use all the power and the fuel consumption will pick up too. While Ford claim as low as 8.4 L/100km, our test unit averaged closer to 11 L/100km and rose to 12.6 L/100km when driven hard.

    Read more: http://sacarfan.co.za/2012/01/road-test-ford-ranger-3-2-hi-rider-wildtrak/#ixzz2KWeFFXib"

    Imagine that, went up to 12.6l/100km... :lol3 I'd give my left one for 13.6l/100km (17 and some change mpg) only when driven hard... (test of the new Ranger with MT)

    Ko
  13. dan0

    dan0 just going with it.

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    Look I got one of them fancy high roof vans now, wait no that's just snow. :D

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  14. cheesebot

    cheesebot I cheesebot

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    same here:

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  15. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    How about a high roof SUV?

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  16. Ko

    Ko Observant as never

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    hope you weren't in a hurry :lol3

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  17. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    My PSD* had 4.10s in the rear. Was geared to pull at 55mph. Anything over say 62-65mph and it started sucking fuel.

    Around town I could get 14-17mpg but that was treating the go pedal gently. Cruising on the freeway I'd get 20-22mpg at 62-65mph. Less than that if I went faster. It'd do 80mph, but it didn't like it. :nono

    I don't remember what the sweet spot for that engine was, but whatever it was, it hit it at 55mph. 1850rpm comes to mind, but someone needs to check that. Its been a few years since the ex- got the truck in the divorce. :bluduh

    M
    *2wd extended cab, long bed with a cap on it
  18. Hayduke

    Hayduke ///SAFETY THIRD/// Super Moderator

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    The sweet spot on the Stalker Van is 82mph. I know my GPS showed over 100 one time after passing some trucks, but with a full load of motos and camping gear, that didn't seem like a good cruising speed. :lol3

    On trips where we take 2-lanes and cruise at about 65, I sometimes get 22-23mpg. :eek1 Usually though, running 70-75, it's in the 19 or 20 range. I do love the tall gears.

    (pic, just because. :D)

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  19. garandman

    garandman Wandering Minstrel

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    So when is the official availability for the Transit in US?
  20. JN3n

    JN3n Been here awhile

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    Third quarter 2013.