Vans!

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Hayduke, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. nnamssorxela

    nnamssorxela ¯\(°_o)/¯

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    That is the look I'm going for, but with skinnier tires. I also have the 7.3 with the 3.55 gears. What kind of mileage are you getting? Also, do you have any sort of lift? The PO put some super sketchy spring spacers on the front of mine, but I need smaller tires before I can take them off.
  2. MeterPig

    MeterPig Meh

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    Wow....I would like to know more about that bad boy.

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  3. MrBob

    MrBob Certified Geezer

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    Still careening forward and trying to adapt to the park closures, which really, really suck.
    Near Newspaper Rock, Canyonlands Park.

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  4. Hayduke

    Hayduke ///SAFETY THIRD/// Super Moderator

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    I have 2" spacers on front of mine; not sketchy, though. :dunno Then just air lift bags on back, mostly for towing. I have the same motor and gears; I get 19-20 usually, on secondary highways. I've gotten as bad as 16 and as good as 23 though. This is figured by GPS, since the odo is off now.

    The tires aren't that fat; I'd kind of like to go a touch wider. The angle of the pic makes them look wider than they are, I think.
  5. nnamssorxela

    nnamssorxela ¯\(°_o)/¯

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    I have spacers like this, that are not only unsafe at best, but prevent the spring from compressing giving me a harder than normal ride. They are also only on one side of the spring, so when it does compress, I'm sure it bends to one side, making my steering wonky when the suspension compresses:

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    2" seems like a lot. Do you think your tires would clear with no spacer at all?

    Thanks again,
    -Alex
  6. Hayduke

    Hayduke ///SAFETY THIRD/// Super Moderator

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    No way the tires will clear without the spacers. :nah I had to do a bit of cutting on the front fenders as it is.

    Those do look sketch. I used the Maxx lift "load levelers":

    http://maxx-lift.com/products/E250-E350-2WD-LEVELING-KIT-2-INCH.html
  7. MrBob

    MrBob Certified Geezer

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    Funny to see these still in use after so many years. We used them in the 60's to raise the front ends of our 58 Chevs, and such, when the look was a raised front end.
    Look for uneven tire wear with these babies and for them to pop out with a lot of suspension travel.
  8. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    Get rid of those and get real springs to lift. Powerblock just had an episode showing these wedges and I remember them in my hot rodding days.

    http://www.spike.com/episodes/ewltqg/powerblock-trucks-1971-c-10-suspension-upgrade-season-2-ep-270
  9. MeterPig

    MeterPig Meh

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    That's what the bike is for.....to go around.

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  10. Sheep Shagger

    Sheep Shagger Show me your fleece

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    They make air bladders that fit inside that spring and will obviously do a far better job. Quite cheap and easy to install, ~$70.
    Also from your other pic is looked like your fenders have been chopped on the back edge (The first place where large wheels rub on the van), so it will be hard to say what will and won't clear for you.

    This is the type of bladder kit I mean, get's great reports on most of the Eseries van places. It's probably not the actual kit # that fit's the van.
    http://www.amazon.com/80531-Series-Front-Air-Spring/dp/B000CFS06O/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
  11. MrBob

    MrBob Certified Geezer

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    Ssssh! :wink:
  12. CHICKENHAWK

    CHICKENHAWK window licker

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  13. Barnstormer

    Barnstormer Polar Bear Wrangler

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  14. Hayduke

    Hayduke ///SAFETY THIRD/// Super Moderator

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    Checked my tire size today; 265/70 17's
  15. dentedvw

    dentedvw Where did I put that

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    Good news is that putting smaller tires on will get you better MPG, probably. and the junkyards are full of white vans so you can get fenders that haven't been sawzalled. :deal

    FWIW, I use 265/75/16 on my E350, and I have the maxx lift 2" spacers under my springs from the mid nineties F350. Same as those listed for the E350, but were cheaper. Tossed out the bolt extender. I used the 1.5 inch lift blocks for the rear from AutoZone, but any kit will do back there. It's tall enough I don't scrape the bumper getting around in urban Utah. Laugh if you want, but I used to drag arse going into a lot of parking lots. It's enough that I drag less off road too, for what it's worth. :lol3

    It also required taking it down to a place that was willing to get creative with the alignment. It still wears the tires a bit more on the inside, but it's to be expected. It's minor now, compared to when I tried to figure it out on my own. Not worth it. Let the shop handle the ball joint adjustments, IMO. You will also either need longer shocks (hard to find for this application for me) or use the shock extenders for the post on the top. I would go that route next time, as I used some early nineties Bronco shocks which were long enough, but are not stiff enough.

    Unless you just want to return it to stock size, which IIRC would have been 245/75/16, or somewhere around there. If you don't need the clearance for occasional off road use, or crazy steep driveways like we have, stock is fine I think. It's a lot easier, no doubt. :1drink
  16. dentedvw

    dentedvw Where did I put that

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    Also, what's going on with the bumper? It looks like it's been lowered, or pushed out, or something?

    Another thing, if you are thinking of updating the headlights to the other style, most of the Ebay units are kind of junky. I am using a set now, and they look okay, and the light output is barely better and they don't adjust worth a darn. I wouldn't buy them again.

    And if your seats are tired, the OEM seat rails on the ford seats are pretty easy to adapt to most other seats. I used seats from an Uplander, which had a good feel, were a bit taller, and have armrests. They look like they could have been stock, and are hundreds of times better than the vinyl seats it used to have. The seat belt receivers swapped right over too, very minimal modifications required. All fit under the GM plastics, and they have little cargo nets on the side.
  17. occasionaldirt

    occasionaldirt Adventurer

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    Last year of short wheelbase(and Ram vans), only short one I could find with the 318 and 4-spd. Gutted it inside and built a custom bed inside, new paint, removed running boards, tint and drapes, rear batteries, and rims.

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  18. dentedvw

    dentedvw Where did I put that

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    Holy moly! That's a short van! Out here, it's all loooong vans. For soccer teams, er, right. It looks real clean in there, reminds me of a boat interior, for some reason. Well sorted and uncluttered.


    Ah, right. A horrible van pic.
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  19. vtwin

    vtwin Air cooled runnin' mon

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    Saw this on the street today. Very clean.

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    And this.


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  20. occasionaldirt

    occasionaldirt Adventurer

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    Hey Hayduke, what make/model is your rear carrier? I've been kicking one of those around to haul a 500lb streetbike on roadtrips. Not sure if my 1/2 ton can handle it, will be checking with a suspension shop.