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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by pilot, Oct 17, 2007.

  1. Tripletreat

    Tripletreat Been here awhile

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    That's certainly excellent advice. But detecting a missing wheel spacer would be next to impossible for most anyone. It's virtually impossible to see it when the wheel is properly installed. I'll admit to my failure to notice the absence of the washer on the left side of the axle. Had I been aware of that, it would have been a red flag -- a warning that a closer look at all the bike was needed. I was suckered by the low miles and pristine condition of the machine. I never suspected the wheel had been removed in the short life of the motorcycle.
  2. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    That wasn't judgement against you. I've hopped on plenty of bikes and went for a spin w/o more than a basic "do the controls look like they work" check. When it's a friends bike and you know it's well maintained and safe to ride, that's probably good enough. When it's a stranger's bike, that's probably not. :muutt

    Gustavo
  3. Süsser Tod

    Süsser Tod Long timer

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    Does anyone have an alternative for the fuel pump "filter"? I'm having issues with my 2014 and Kawasaki does not sell a "fuel filter" for them...

    If you haven't seen it, this is what the fuel pump looks like:

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    According to Kawasaki the bottom part is the fuel filter:

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  4. Süsser Tod

    Süsser Tod Long timer

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    But as you can see here, there is no filer element, it's a clear passage:

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    The plastic body of the pump is nothing more than the pressure regulator (unlike V-Stroms where the pressure regulator and filter are built into the same part). So this is what actually filters the fuel:

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  5. Kiko

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    V went dead on me in Matehuala, SLP when I picked up a full tank of gas full of sediment and rust from the tanker truck that was filling the local Pemex tanks as I was filling my V. Fortunately I have a good friend in Matehuala who is a moto mechanic so the repair went well, 500 MXN, pulled the tank and cleaned the filter with carb cleaner.

    I would think if you could find a place on the frame near the tank to strap an aftermarket auto FI filter that would certainly simplify a future repair. Buena suerte.
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  6. Tripletreat

    Tripletreat Been here awhile

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  7. Süsser Tod

    Süsser Tod Long timer

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    I reverse flushed it with carb cleaner and compressed air, but it's basically impossible to get a filter back to like new cleanliness. It's much better since I did that, but I'm preparing for the inevitable, and I'd like to avoid an external in line filter, as to me, that looks like another point of failure. Also ebay pumps do not inspire confidence, they look filthy and I wouldn't trust those filters as much as I do my old cleaned filter.
  8. motoclimb

    motoclimb Adventurer

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    Depends on what you are calling failure.
    The part has already yielded, or as you said "set". So somewhere in that 55cm, something has bent/buckled enough to not return where it came from. It's amazing the axial load that is created by 80ftlbs of torque.
    Also, aluminum can fail in fatigue, due to cycling of load.
    My conservative concern is reduced fatigue life across the yielded section.

    EBay has steel swing arms from ninjas for under $100. It was a popular swap for gen1.
  9. onetravdown

    onetravdown I can't ride where?

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    Cogent Dynamics shock. Worth every penny

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  10. Marylander

    Marylander Been here awhile

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    Nice! Wiped it off for the photo? :)
  11. onetravdown

    onetravdown I can't ride where?

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    LOL, no installed it on a dirty bike. I was to excited to bother washing it beforehand.

    Looks more like this now :)

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  12. Marylander

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    Ah, so I'm not the only one to do things like that. At least I have enough shame to not post pictures of it. :imaposer
  13. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    What are the actual issues/symptoms you are experiencing? I have seen one pump that seems to be working, but it was not pumping enough volume due to overheating. It wasn't a dirty filter that was limiting the flow, it was the pump itself.

    Gustavo
  14. onetravdown

    onetravdown I can't ride where?

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    Not me lol. I don't care....I don't wash my bike all the time anyway. It just gets dirty again. :lol3
  15. Süsser Tod

    Süsser Tod Long timer

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    The bike stalls when braking hard and the fuel level is low; when it was new and after cleaning the filter it will only do it when the fuel level is very low, last line in the gauge when the low fuel warning is about to flash, both my 2010 and 2014 did this. However on my 2014 it got worse, to the point that it would stall if I braked hard on the 3 last lines of the fuel gauge. Confirmed it's the filter as after cleaning it it is back to normal.

    The filter is in vertical orientation so the lowest part of the filter will accumulate the most debris and clog first, but the filter will continue to clog from bottom to the top.
  16. jdrocks

    jdrocks Gravel Runner

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    if tightened all the way without the spacer, i think the deflection was 12mm at the axle. the aluminum swingarm sidewall is only about 3mm.
  17. Süsser Tod

    Süsser Tod Long timer

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    I'm probably late to the swingarm debte, but without the spacers there would have been contact between the hub and non moving parts. On the left side the sprocket carrier would have made contact with the swingarm and on the right side the wheel and brake disk would have made contact with the brake caliper carrier. I just can't see how the bike would have been rideable in either case.
  18. Tripletreat

    Tripletreat Been here awhile

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    "i think the deflection was 12mm at the axle."
    I don't believe deflection could be 12mm. The missing RH wheel spacer's shoulder is only about 4 mm. Even IF both LH and RH spacers were missing, that's still only 8 mm.
  19. jdrocks

    jdrocks Gravel Runner

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    maybe a photo would help, here's a couple sets of Versys rear wheel spacers. 17mm right side/5mm seal, and 18mm left side/10mm seal. seal wear marks show on the spacers, and seals install flush with the hub. spacer projection past the seal is 12mm right, and 8mm left.

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    however, S. Tod knows these bikes and is correct in wondering how the bike was ridden without the wheel locked in place, seems lateral movement would end up with interference issues. count yourself lucky.
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  20. Soulbreeze

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    Joined the club yesterday. Picked up this 2014 with about 2400 miles on it for 5k. One tiny white scratch on the taillight; rest of the bike is still showroom. The lightness surprised me. Thing feels like it weighs quite a bit less than it does. Only negative is it came with a Two Bros exhaust on it and it's obnoxiously loud. Ordered a baffle for it as soon as I got home. If it's still too loud, I'll probably be looking for a trade for a stocker or something.

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