Vespa GTS 300 Super- Talk me out of it, please

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by GS Mojo, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. GS Mojo

    GS Mojo Been here awhile

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    This is the first scooter that has gotten under my skin. I've looked at a bunch. I had an ET4 a while back and was not that thrilled with it. This is a different animal.

    I'm having a hard time with the price, especially when they add in $500 destination and some processing fees.

    But it sure looks nice.
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  2. cogitate

    cogitate What Marcellus Wallace Looks Like

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    You won't get me to talk you out of it. I also had an ET4, which was nice but WAY too slow for around here.

    The Vespa 250/300 is calling me too. Around here, I can pick up a 250 for 4500. With like 600 miles on it. That one sold fast, but they are around all the time. If I go scooter again, I will probably pick up a low mileage used one. :ricky
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  3. bunnybash

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    Before you do anything test ride i scarabeo 300
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  4. B02S4

    B02S4 Aye

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    Buy one. :D
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  5. approachbears

    approachbears 250cc is 50cc too many

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    Buy a used one and don't worry as much about price.
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  6. notdave

    notdave gets bored easily

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    i want one but way too expensive for me. i'd have to settle for a scarabeo/burgman/etc..
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  7. GS Mojo

    GS Mojo Been here awhile

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    This is really the best advice. They don't pop up here too often though.
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  8. bunnybash

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    you REALLY should test ride a Scarabeo or BV before buying the Vespa, way cheaper and as an all round vehicle is light years ahead of the Vespa. I have a 250GTS Vespa sitting in my garage that might get ridden once a month, because the BV is that much better to ride, it gets ridden every day.

    I don't need to talk you out of buying a 300, but i DO need to talk you into testing a Scarabeo or BV... The Scarabeo is a magnificent looking machine too... I would rate it's looks higher than the BV (which is what i own). The underseat storage of the Scarabeo is crazy good too, WAY better than the Vespa or BV... only thing better would be some of the ugly maxi scooters.
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  9. PinkSteel

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    This is the first time I've really paid much attention to one....great reviews, great looking, and it's a Vespa. Once you get past the price, it looks like a helluva ride..


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  10. GS Mojo

    GS Mojo Been here awhile

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    I know beauty is always in the eye of the beerholder, but why do you say the BV is better to ride? What makes it better?
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  11. kconville

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    "Talk me out of it, please"

    You're probably in the wrong place here, for that. We live vicariously through others, to an extent, and if I can't afford a GTS300 right now I want YOU to buy one!


    Me too. To my thinking, it is THE most desirable scooter there is. I'd get white :deal

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  12. approachbears

    approachbears 250cc is 50cc too many

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    My wife owns the Scarabeo 500ie (same as the BV 500, but with slightly newer looking, yet still Italian, styling and more underseat storage) and I've ridden friend's GTS 300's.

    Better ride means what? The Scarabeo isn't a maxi scooter like a Burgman, but it feels bigger than the Vespa 300. The larger wheels on the Piaggio and Aprilia are something that some rave about, but small wheels feel pretty zippy to me in their own right. Both will do 2 up and do the highway if you want to do that. I guess better means different.

    I don't really see a significant price difference in the used market. The new GTS 300 is only a couple hundred less than the new BV 500. I guess that's different. But not massively inordinate.
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  13. rhys

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    Oooooh...., I would sooooo love to have a new Super Duper 300 Vespa!!!
    But you wanna be talked out of it, so here goes:

    I'm selling my GT200 Vespa after only two months and 2,000 miles of ownership because there is absolutely NOTHING I/(you) can do about the seating & handlebar position. My back has been in a constant state of poor alignment, with a rib sticking me in the lung ever since I rode the scoot home on the first day.

    What do you get fer yer money?!? Steel, details in it's design ironed out, but more importantly..... your paying designer-name money (read, LOTS OF IT!) for the iconic image and a name that screams "TIMELESS VESPA!".

    But for that money (read, $$$), you get old fashion small wheels, only 270+- cc's, and a top speed of 85 mph that only speed freaks (read, "idiot") like me who will ride that fast on 13" wheels.

    In the short time that I put 2,000 miles on my Vespa, I had to clean the air filter often ('cause I ride at WOT causing a lot of oil bypass). And after reading/studying about these things..... they need to do a lot of upkeep if you plan to ride it more than for simple enjoyment. My rear tire was bald in a mere 2,500 miles (and I already complain about getting only 5,000 outa my motorcycle tire!), roller bearings wear out quickly, belts need to be replaced, variators need attention, oil change intervals are 2,000 miles with $10 a quart synthetic, etc., etc., etc.

    Insurance is expensive. WHAT!?!?? HOW CAN INSURANCE BE EXPENSIVE FOR A 198cc (my GT200) scooter???? My insurance company wants almost MORE to cover my scooter than they already get for my 1255cc full dresser Suzuki Bandit!??!

    If you don't already know - IF - your back can handle it, there is NOTHING you can do to alter the seating and handlebar position! I am now selling a 35 year old dream.... after only two months of ownership. And I absolutely LOVED this machine, despite everything I've posted (and not posted) about why you should not buy the new Super 300.......

    Damn, the new 2010 (not yet State-side) 300 Super is sooooo fine though!

    Don't buy it, you may end having to keep a motorcycle you already have in the garage on a Battery Tender.... 'cause you're gonna be having fun riding and being seen on a VERY COOL (and timeless icon) VESPA......
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  14. cogitate

    cogitate What Marcellus Wallace Looks Like

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    Rhys
    thanks for reminding me about the comfort issue. I did one long ride on my ET4 (similar riding position) and could not wait to get off.

    I do prefer the forward lean to the bars as on my Hawk GT650. Just perfect.

    Maybe that is why I bought one of those when I sold the Vespa.
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  15. rhys

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    I NEED that lean forward riding position.... with different handlebars, angled just right, bar-backs for my short (read, T-Rex) arms, and an altered saddle, I can make my Bandit work for me. And I've had to make the same mod's to FZ1, Bonnevilles, Sprint RS, and BMW.....

    (I'm gonna miss my GT200; and it's in our Scooter For Sale section if you wanna consider a purchase from Central California.)
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  16. GS Mojo

    GS Mojo Been here awhile

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    rhys,
    That was a great post with good info and a lot to think about. Thanks
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    Aahh..., so the complaint more specifically centers around nature's cruel trick of endowing you with an arm-leg ratio akin to a prehistoric reptile, than to the relative ergonomics of a large frame Vespa! In this understanding, the coveted 300 Super will remain atop my list of desirable object de scoot :nod
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  18. approachbears

    approachbears 250cc is 50cc too many

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    Affirmation of the wisdom of not buying something without riding it first. Rent one, borrow one, work out a long test rider with the seller/dealer, etc... We internet prognosticators are indeed limited.
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    "Affirmation of the wisdom of not buying something without riding it first."

    Indeed, and though I have ridden a GTS250 and suffered no offending annoyances, one cannot so easily conclude what a day in the saddle will bring unless having done so.
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  20. Mobiker

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    Me too. The red is racy and italian, the black is menacing (well as menacing as a Vespa can get :D ), but the white is just classy.
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