victory motorcycles

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by daryle105, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. rivercreep

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    ...Victory has no entry level machines to get the Brand out there and be seen by more people.
    I could actually picture a bare bones cruiser that looks like a 1400 Intruder for around $10,000. They could even give it an all black finish (to limit the costs) to every thing but the engine that people could actually spend more time riding than polishing.
    If I were to "Buy American"; this would be the Brand.:freaky
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  2. Stryker_11a

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    I was told that they are dropping the price of the Vegas 8ball from $13.8 to $12.8 in the spring. They just aquired [FONT=arial,sans-serif]swissauto Powersports, [/FONT][FONT=arial,sans-serif]their V4 2-stroke 500 cc engine might find itself on an entry level cruiser. Wait and see. [/FONT]
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  3. quint7

    quint7 "I drove a boat thru the desert"

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  4. OConnor

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  5. wanka

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    I once swore I would never buy a cruiser. That was years ago, then last spring I bought an '09 Victory Kingpin. So far, so good, I love it. From all the Victory forums they are fairly reliable and don't seem to have many issues, which is one reason I bought one. For those interested in one of the cruiser type bikes, you must look at the Victory and try one out if you can.
    Good riding.
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  6. ADK

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    Q: Are there any Victories being used as police bikes? :ear
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  8. Zerk

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    Victory is doing pretty good for a 10 year old company. I think the Cross Country and Cross Roads are right on track. The Vision is hit or miss with people. It looks better in person. I think they are going to appeal to the metric riders who want to move up from a cruiser, but not ready for a Goldwing yet. The Vision has an exposed engine, chrome, and I am sure you can pipe it.

    When my Ultra gets to long in the tooth, I will look at the Cross Country. Though it needs a tourpak and lowers for me. Maybe consider the Vision, it sure comes with alot.

    The Victories are better engineered then Harley, but they need some of Harley's fnishing touches. Harley excels as comsetics and fairly beefy built bikes. I don't like the plastic triangles between the cylinders. I think the Vics have the ugly Jap tanks with weld line at the bottom. Plus the comntrols are Jap.

    Another bike I think may do well is the new Kawaski Voyager, for the metric guys not wanting a GW, but more then a cruiser.
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  9. Zerk

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    One plus for Victory is the right hand belt,is supposed to be easy to change. What hell is going to take Harley to do that?

    But the all the tanks are similar, they are all have the stretched look. I'd like to see varation. Though maybe they are going for a look for all there bikes.
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  10. OConnor

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    The cruiser models have the same tank. The Cross bikes have a different tank, and the Vision tanks are under the plastic.

    I'm not sure what you're talking about here. They aren't made in Japan and I don't see a weld seem anywhere.

    [​IMG]
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  11. pacmktg

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    Zerk,

    My 05 kingpin has no weld seams on the tank. Do not know what you are looking at.

    The Cross Country has a tour pak and lowers designed for it. I am betting they come out next model year.

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  12. Zerk

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    My mistake. I thought they had the seem at the bottom of the tank, like Japanese bikes.

    If they got a tourpak and lowers for the Cross Country, I would look at it, when I need my next touring bike. I wouldn't rule out a Vision, but not sure on it. The bags seemed to have some dead space in them.

    The Vic site says the new saddlebags for CC and CR are easy openning. Harley's are awful.
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  13. OConnor

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    I actually wasn't sure about the tank either and had to go find that pic, I hate that seam too.

    The vision bags are not nearly as big as they look on the outside, a cosmetic concession for sure. The X bikes are huge in comparison and pop slightly open (weather stripping) when you push the lock/button.
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  14. Roam

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    07 Vegas 8-Ball with 24k miles. Other than a broken clutch cable the bike has been great.

    Hammer front end and custom dog bones to lift the bike for more cornering clearance. Love it.
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    One of your brakes fell off. :lol3
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    quint7 "I drove a boat thru the desert"

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    Hey Hugh! Good to see another VMC'er here. Hugh's bike was my original inspiration.
    As for police bikes, I stopped at Arizona Victory yesterday on a cross country ride for an oil change. They made that police bike for the Tucson police. It originally was a show bike until the senior motor cops bike (Harley) and backup (another Harley) broke down. He was forced to ride the Vic and now wont get off of it they said. They are currently working on police versions of the Cross bikes and showed me a computer mock-up of them. (They own that site and tried to get Vic to start a police bike line but Vic refused so they started it themselves). They told me that they are talking with Tucson PD about outfitting them all with Vics. The Harley's cost them $11000 PER BIKE last year in maintenance they said!
    They are great guys there and I talked to them for about 2 hours. They have some sick custom Vics including one converted to chain drive. Great guys there!
    On the controls, I think the "Jap controls" are pretty much the standard for all bikes other than Harley and I think BMW. Switches are switches and having them the same as basically every other bike makes sense as it is one less thing to "scare" people away (turn signals on each control for Harleys? Really? Stupid.).
    They guys at Arizona told me two very interesting things:
    Polaris is finally realizing that they need to sell the bikes at regular polaris dealers (there are tons of em and Vic dealers have been dropping like flys). And the Kingpin and 100 in motors are on their way out. The Pin is more expensive than the Cross Roads but basically the same type bike and the 110 inch motor is gonna be standard across the line which is why they came up with the limited edition hopped up Vegas.
    I'm really glad I stopped there. Best Vic dealer I've seen.
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  17. 996DL

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    The thing I like best about the Polaris/Victory motorcycles, is that they directly influence Harley Davidson's future production designs.

    The replacement for the current Twin Cam big twin, will be directly influenced by the hp and torque figures, of the more modern unit construction dohc Victory models. Within the next five years if not a lot sooner, HD's next big twin will appear and it'll have what ever is needed design wise, to satisfy their core customer's demands to meet or exceed the power figures of it's nearest direct competition, which although in far more limited production numbers, is the Polaris/Victory lineup...

    So keep pushing the envelope Polaris/Victory, there's easily enough room in this segment for two American mc manufacturers and for those of us that love the more automotive based HD format, it only speeds up and refines the mother corp's efforts !

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  18. OConnor

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    I didn't know Victory used a 110in motor in anything. What is the Limited Ed. Vegas?
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    A broken clutch cable at 24k, is a bit of a pisser to me. Lack of maintenance? Even so 24k doesn't seem like alot. Lube them cables.
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  20. Birdmove

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    I like the Victorys-except for the Vision. I think it's a mite ugly. I'm still kicking myself for not picking up a new sport model some years ago when a dealer had a few for cheap. I'm glad we have another solid US motorcycle maker. But why do both the HD big twins, and the Victorys need six speeds in their respective big high torque big displacement engines? I know why my 225cc Yamaha XT225 dual sport needs six gears, but why does a motorcyclew with huge amounts of torque?? These bike would certainly be rideable even if they had a three speed trans.

    jon
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