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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by EvilGenius, Feb 23, 2009.
Play ten hours a day?
I may have to get that. I've really only started to play BF3. Ive only got 3 or 400 hours logged
I play BO-2 a lot, probably too much. Here's what I've found that helps me.
There is a hierarchy(?) of what gun wins a shoot out given both players are aiming on target. Kind of distance versus speed.
Pistol vs AR - short distance pistol wins, long distance AR wins. Sub machine guns fall in the middle and are a good compromise. Basically, have the gun out that fits the distance. Tight quarters= short gun. Open distance= long gun.
The guns I use most-
Pistol- B23R with a long barrel if you have the slot open.
SMG- Peacekeeper-laser/quick draw/suppressor or Target Finder/long barrel
AR-M27 TF/supressor/Full Metal Jacket or TF/noob tube(grenade launcher)
AR/Sniper FAL- TF/Supp/FMJ crazy good at distance
Sniper -Never use them. Previous games I would be the guy players would yell at at the end of the game. Don't like them on BO/2 FAL is just as good
Perks, Here's what I use on all my classes
Blind eye- don't get killed by air assets/UAV
Cold Blood-you don't show up when targeted by players I don't know why more players don't use this.
Engineer-You can see equipment, betties/claymores etc. also delays tripping them so you can run past before they trip and kill the noob, sorry, unaware player who thinks they're safe. I hate getting killed by equipment.
EMP grenade. Great way to piss players off by destroying their equipment and kill streaks
Black Hat. Great way to piss off players by hacking their stuff and making it yours.
UAV - Hunter killer - Lightning strike
Go with what works for you. I stopped using Care Package, I would always get killed retrieving them.
Things noobs don't realize.
FMJ will shoot through most walls
Engineer lets you run past equipment:huh
Pistols kick ass at close range (probably the best advice I can give)
Running around corners is a good way to get killed. When going around corners, slow down and get your gun up
BTW I *ONLY* play Hardcore type games. I like the more realistic play and skill. Other than that, learn the maps and the areas that players like work. I alway try to figure out the style of the team I'm playing against. Run and Gun, Camp and Snipe or Area control. Tailor your gun class to the type of map you're playing.
I can't stand unloading an entire clip into someone on the normal game modes, and they do not drop :huh
Hard core only takes a couple of bullets in most cases. There are guys on youtube getting over 100 kills in the normal modes, and I can not figure out how they do it (other than they are very good, they anticipate where the enemy will be, and in most cases the controller sensitivity is very high).
Oh, watching some of the guys on Youtube that are very good has helped me. SandyRavage, Chris Smooth, the markofj, etc... I will never be as good as them, but you can learn from them
Quickest way to prestige up on black ops 2 is to play domination. Use dual perks on first class.
Gun: Lsat with Target Finder and Silencer
Class 1: Ghost and flack jacket.
Class 2: Toughness
Class 3: Tactical Mask
Capture B, and then spawn trap them back at their side of the map.
If you are not going to play hardcore, you want to run toughness as a perk.
If you decide on hardcore, swap that with cold blooded.
I like playing hardcore, but keep in mind you are months behind where everyone else is and campers will be hard for you to find.
Hardcore is all about getting bullets on target as quick as possible. SMGs rule hardcore on most maps. If you decide to run anything besides an smg, you are going to need to put Dexterity and a fast grip on your gun or the smg guys will eat you up.
Learn where the spawns are, if you are not playing hardcore, look at the mini map. Where all your guys are on the map, you can pretty much guarantee the others guys are spawning at the other side.
Where you start on a map, is a spawn point.
Cheapest gun in the game, and the one I have the most kills with, is the Peacekeeper. You want to use this gun, master it. It is powerful and as accurate as a assault rifle, with the quick handling of an smg.
One thing that pisses me off about BO2 and MW3 is the maps don't have nearly as many good maps for LMG's. I was a beast on MW2 with my scoped LMG.
Yep, the RPD was insane.
Couple more notes. Don't be the noob that keeps running to his death, patience goes a long way. And guys that play a lot of hardcore will hear you before they see you most of the time. The ninja perk is important on hardcore.
I just hit Level 45 last night. The game just satisfies my ADD-ness, it's so multi-dimentional . I'm certed into all classes of Infantry and all my vehicles are certed pretty good too, with special emphasis on the Reaver fighter and Vanguard tank.
I pretty much use death as an excuse to switch classes or vehicles.
I still got friends stuck on Black Ops or Battlefield but I can't go back to those games, it's so boring compared to Planetside 2.
For all the replies. The good news is, I had already figured out 90% of what ya'll told me on my own. The bad news is, I had already figured out 90% of what ya'll told me on my own and still suck.
I was set up with the peace keeper with quick draw, fmj, and target finder add ons. I don't even carry a second gun. I've quit trying to pick up second guns as well as it seemed to always get me killed trying to use them. I changed up my perks based on what was recommended. The engineer perk is great. I still use scavenger as I seem to unload a lot of shots per kill, and need to be able to get the extra ammo.
I've been playing custom games with twice as many opposing bots as teammate bots, and managed to double my kill/death ratio tonight taking all the advice. Another few days of this, and I may be ready to play online with my boy and his pre teen friends.
The toughness perk will help you a ton on missing shots on non hardcore game modes. It keeps you on aim while you are being shot.
FMJ does not actually increase damage except through walls.
My peacekeeper class on non hardcore is:
Silencer and any sight you want to put on it
First perks: Ghost, and hardline
Second Perk: Toughness and Scavenger
Third Perk: Extreme Conditioning
The SMR is a hell of a gun on non hardcore games. Really powerful, and with select fire it is a deadly gun.
This is the only gun I run 3 perks on. Red dot sight, select fire, and a silencer. Played TDM last night with this set up, and in 10 or so games I called in 3 VTOL warships.
The SMR is really aggravating to use in the beginning though, you will die a lot with it. Stick it out and get the attachments, it will pay off.
That's one of the single-shot assault rifles, right? I am working on the FAL right now, and although powerful, I am not used to treating it more like a sniper rifle. However, I play mostly hardcore kill-confirmed, and I am pretty good at getting the first shot on target, so getting kills hasn't been that hard. Getting headshots however is taking a long time.
What does suck... I have been playing CoD since MW2 on the xbox, and my K/D is still only 0.8 or so. Thankfully, I don't care I play games to have fun, and I have fun most every match. Even the match last night where I went 8 and 26 :eek1
Hardcore is hard to keep a high k/d ratio unless you camp a ton. If you are trying to get your head shots to gold out your gun, hardcore is also a difficult game mode to do it.
A lot of my head shots I get playing standard mode and come from gun bounce from when a player shoots me the gun will bounce and I will hit him in the head
Yeah the SMR is the other single shot. The FAL is deadly too, and is actually more accurate and has a higher firing rate than the SMR.
If you play a lot of hardcore the SMR will not be better than the FAL. They are both single shot kills on hardcore.
If you want to up your K/D. Get a set of Turtle beaches. My k/d over the past cods was around 2.2 with the Turtle beaches, but mine broke before Black ops 2 came out and I have not replaced them, now it is around 1.8. They help that much.
Plus the game sounds amazing.
On that note, I think I am going to go over to amazon and grab me a new pair.
HAHA! I have a set of Turtle Beaches actually...
Oh well, as you said, play the game for fun. I have spent to many hours playing it myself, but it is a good way to get away from thinking about all the other shit I have going on at work.
Oh its definitely fun! I normally go close to a 1:1 ratio in most matches. However, there are games like last night where there are a couple of skilled players doing the spawn trap thing, and, well, you know how it can be.
So, I load up the RPG class and try to blast them away
I don't know why people hate on the rocket launchers so much Such fun to walk around with those on your shoulder
I have the first rocket launcher in the game at gold, the second one needs 4-5 more player controlled killstreaks to be gold, and I have only recently unlocked and started working on the RPG. I need about 50 more kills before working on the rest of the challenges for that one. My goal is to have the diamond rocket launchers
If you are playing hardcore I don't think it is cheap at all to use the launchers. They are slow, and if you get hit first the rocket usually does not go off.
I have my piss the other team off class as well.
I run the M8A1 with a grenade launcher and target finder.
First class is Flack Jacket
Second Class Scavenger and Fast Hands
Third Class Tactical Mask
In hardcore mode, you hear a lot of cussing running this class.
The rpg you have to shoot down an aircraft to get the gold. The easiest to shoot down is the escort drone. Just make sure you are running blind eye and cold blooded when you get to that point.
OK, I have done that before, stealth chopper I think is what it was. It is always easy when you don't have to do it though. Then when you need to do it for the challenge it takes weeks. I almost gave up on the second rocket launcher, it took me a month to get an ARC (or whatever the pig with rockets is called) kill.
I played on hardcore mode tonight. For some reason, I find it much easier. My biggest problem was getting lightning strikes for kill streaks and then accidentally killing teammates.
I've been playing COD since Cod4, and I've discovered that I like to play in a more defensive style than is popular with the YouTube video set. But there are some helpful tips to be found there.
Anyway, try this:
MK48 with target finder and fmj. This LMG is a sniper killing wallbanging monster.
B23R. My favorite pistol, and you need a good secondary for tight spaces as the MK48 kinds sucks at hip firing and quick reactions.
Bouncing betty. To defend your ass when holding down a choke point from a head glitch. Even if it doesn't kill the guy coming up behind you'll get a warning. Also good for tossing into random corners and groups of enemies.
Flak jacket. To keep from being blown up by the guys who are pissed off at you for killing them 4 times before you have to reload.
Run the Perk 2 Greed wildcard so you can run toughness and scavenger. The scavenger keeps the monster fed, but just as important, lots of betties to toss. Toughness so you can take a couple hits and not have your aim go off.
Engineer. You can see all the enemy devices and avoid them, plus you can roll your care packages to get something better, and boobytrap enemy packages.
Learn the traffic patterns (a key tool for any COD game mode), and use this class to command choke points and overlook flags and hardpoints and mow down the enemy with ease.
Or a more aggressive LMG build, suitable for a more mobile style:
LSAT with quickdraw and laser. Quickdraw helps the LMG come up faster, laser turns it into a hip firing beast. LSAT has excellent iron sights. This gun reminds me a lot of the RPD from MW2, my favorite video game weapon of all time. Except maybe the Barrett .50.
Flack jacket and lightweight. Lightweight gives some much needed speed to this class.
Tactical mask. Immunity to flash and such.
Frag grenade or C4 depending on your mood.
You could do without the pistol on this build and run a flash or concussion grenade.
Play and have fun, and don't get discouraged when you have a bad game. You'll figure out a playing style that works for you and then you'll start to get good results. Try every weapon as you unlock them, you'll know when you find the right one. Learn the maps and the traffic patterns. Learn how the spawns switch. Don't fall into the trap of being predictable. Don't feel that you just have to run right back to where you just died to kill that guy, he'll probably kill you again. Take another route, get behind him and stab him in the back. Don't be afraid to completely switch your weapons and strategy if it's not working at the start of a game, I've had plenty of comebacks from behind by doing just that. All of this is just as important as fast twitch gun skills.