:: Vietnam by Motorcycle - or by the Bikers

Discussion in 'Asia' started by VietHorse, Jun 21, 2013.

  1. VietHorse

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    Okay, according to this article today, Vietnam will issue International Driver license, effective 01 Jan 2015.
    And along with that, International Driver license also be recognized in Vietnam.

    What are the main issues here?

    - For Vietnamese or foreigners who are resident in Vietnam: you can apply for International Driver license and that IDL is recognized over 70 countries (as Vienna conventions).

    - For foreigner travelling in Vietnam - you can drive/ride in Vietnam if you have the valid IDL. And you are not allowed to drive/ride in Vietnam without valid IDL. It sounds funny to note here, but there could be an issue: Up to this moment, IDL or foreign Driver License is not recognized in Vietnam. The Police (well, the Law) is quite easy to foreigners riding here because there is no black and white requirement for foreigners, and it is unreasonable to ask travelers to apply and got to exam to get Vietnam licenses. But starting from 2015, the regulation and requirement of IDL is clear and applied, so for sure all foreign travelers must have IDL then you are allowed to drive/ride here. So you 'd better get your IDL ready before making a Vietnam trip.
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  2. woody's wheel works

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    hi CU,,,
    let me understand better..>>>

    1,, are you saying foreigner must have IDL issued from Vietnam
    or
    2, are you saying any foreigner who drives in Vn must have some IDL in his possession from those 70 countries...???

    and ...other ???

    are you saying that all foreign residents in Vn need to get this lDL....

    and if you are foreigner visiting ..you can take the test in Vn and obtain it there..

    bottom line ..everyone needs the IDL after 1JAN 2015...

    holler

    OBTW,,,, i would like to acknowledge you in all the ADV riders and my behalf for taking the time and being a mentor to all of us when it comes to sharing your countries culture ,,,it's customs and laws,,and especially its food roads and scenic destinations!!!

    cam on ong!!
    :freaky

    YO!!!,,canh ly!!!

    RBDM = Ruu de bao da Manh:wink:
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    woody
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  3. Voltaire

    Voltaire Titanium and Ceramic Hipster

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    Thats good they are going to recognize IDL's.
    I can't say I was that happy riding illegally with probably no insurance in the event of an accident.
    It sure honed my 'get out of the way' skills and gave me more of an appreciation of riding slow.:D
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  4. VietHorse

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    Howdy Woody, when your next Vietnam visit? Bring your IDL or ride on your own risk. LOL....

    Well, sorry for making you confused.
    Like this, from the past until this moment, only Vietnam Driver licenses are recognized in Vietnam. No translation of your home country driver license is accepted in Vietnam. So it means that if you want to ride legally in Vietnam, you must obtain Vietnam Driver License. And it is no way for you to get a Vietnam Driver License if you are not resident here for minimum 3 months (!!!??? or so).

    However, that old regulation is far away from the changes of the modern world, so somehow the police take a bit easy to foreign who rides in Vietnam. They sometimes try not to bother a foreigner on the road, unless that guy involves in road accident or so.

    But from 1Jan2015, foreigners are officially allowed to ride in Vietnam with "recognized IDL", so I assume that the Police will not take it easy anymore. They know that and they would ask you to show your IDL if catching you as a foreigner riding. If you fail to do so, you will be in trouble.

    I don't know if they can improve until the Custom at border, to check your IDL first right at the bike importation gate if you ride in. I doubt that they can't do it until next 5 years. :evil

    So, better you can proceed with your application of IDL (wherever you could) now, if you have plan to ride or drive in Vietnam.
    For getting the IDL in Vietnam, I don't have any official guidelines yet. But I think it would still request foreigner to have at least 03 month residential as per the normal license.


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  5. woody's wheel works

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    got it CU,,
    thanks for clarifying
    FYI..driving with your local license,,,BWOE,,my ''colorado drivers license''..is usable in any state/territory of USA..even in some european countries as well as Canada and Mexico,,,
    after that it's a total crap-shoot....although the USA IDL issued by AAA is good in quite a few countries...i'm sure vietnam joined the existing coalition/partner countries..
    soon
    cam on ong
    woody
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  6. VietHorse

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    You are right. Nothing wrong, everything nice and clear until the incident happens. You may easily to get thru a police check point when you are supposed to be fined from speeding, but you won't be let go if you are involve with accident.
    License is one thing, as you said about insurance, an important stuff as well.
    Talking about insurance in Vietnam, it is mandatory for your opponent - it covers for the one who you may create incident to them, not for you. And don't bother about that insurance cost, very very cheap. Some US dollars for a motorcycle a year, around 30usd for a car a year or so.
    That insurance is more toward a must have "document" for you to legally travel by motorcycle or cars here. It doesn't mean the insurance agency will come and take care of your case.
    If you want just to be legally travel, need the Driver license + (3rd) Insurance + Motorcycle registration card (blue-book or so)
    If you want yourself to be covered if any incident happens, then buy another separate insurance.
    Hope my English is okay for understanding :ear
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  7. Bucket1960

    Bucket1960 Been here awhile

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    Perfectly understandable VietHorse :clap and yet when you get something not quite right, it makes me laugh :D
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  8. MotoFab

    MotoFab Nomadic MotoFab

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    Bravo and thank you for all your efforts.
    I am planning a Vietnam Ride Spring/Summer 2015. Hoping to meet up for a Beer if you are available.
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  9. kito

    kito Been here awhile

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    I fly into Hanoi on the 6th December . I will be getting a 3 month visa so does that mean I can get a Vietnamese local licence ? How long would it take to get one ?
    I'm looking to buy a bike and hopefully take it to Cambodia and Laos. Is it possible to legally own it and cross borders ?
    Thanks kito
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  10. VietHorse

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    LOL :)))

    Why not. Up to now, my record says I am 100% available for ADV inmates. :freaky
    Btw, I will have some ADV-beer-meet tonight :D

    Sorry Kito for not respond to you earlier.
    And also sorry about your case. Your 3 months visa doesn't meant you are already 3 months residence here.
    Law says you need to prove that you have been staying - legal/official resident in VN - for at least 03 months.
    For buying a motorcycle here in Vietnam, you can do it if you have money. And you may need the existing registration card only (no need to convert it into your name - as you CAN'T do). Riding a small bike (below 175cc bike) in Vietnam is not a big deal, if you really wanted to do - just need to stay away of traffic police, no accident, then you are in good shape. Crossing the border on small bike I heard that is not difficult as the big bike. Seriously I don't know exactly how it works.
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  11. VietHorse

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    Ignore AGATT for a little while then watch this video clip, it's Vietnam:

    http://vimeo.com/117669654

    Someone may help to embed the clip :(
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  12. ben2go

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    :clap
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  13. flei

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    Like that video a lot; brings back nice memories and makes me eager to return again this year!
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  14. tuabb

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    This clip brings me here :clap:clap

    @ a VietHorse: Hân hạnh làm quen anh, em cũng ở HCM luôn, em đang có kế hoạch năm sau chạy vào Myanmar, anh có thông tin về vấn đề cửa khẩu bên đấy k ạ
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  15. woody's wheel works

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    Tot lam,,,ausgezeichnet,,,ichi-ban...those two bros nailed quite a bit of your homeland CU...getting the itch,,Tet starts on the 19th this month..can i pull it off???
    :freaky
    woody
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  16. spacekadet

    spacekadet Been here awhile

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    Howdy,

    I'm looking for recommendations for any companies in Vietnam that offer one-way rental (either HCM - Hanoi, or the other way around).

    Dozens of rental web sites, I'm just trying to short-circuit the tedious process of asking them all if they do offer one-way rental (most don't).

    cheers
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  17. spacekadet

    spacekadet Been here awhile

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    oops, forgot to subscribe...
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  18. Homebrewer

    Homebrewer Ride, Rest, Repeat..

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    I just rode from Hanoi to HCM city on a too-short, blast-through 10 day trip last month, and rented a bike from Phung's Motorbike rentals in Hanoi. I was very pleased with the bike, a Honda Fortune 125, for about $20 a day from him, including the transport back to Hanoi once I dropped it off at his partner's in HCM city. Read his reviews on tripadvisor.

    Whatever you get, you will want good suspension, seat, brakes, tires, and the most power and reliability you can afford. I could have bought a piece of crap Minsk or something outright for less than the price of the rental, but would probably now still be there fixing it in the jungle, or recovering somewhere after being scraped off the bumper of a bus, seriously.

    Will do it again for sure, but have more time to do it right, and explore more.

    Here's the bike, with side racks, (I used a carry on roller suitcase in a garbage bag), and a small rucksack. I'm on the Ho Chi Mihn trail, on the West side of Phong Nha Park, on my way to Khe Sahn, 260kms, (no fuel!). Hence the water bottles filled with petrol. Awesome jungle ride!

    I have some more ride pics posted on my Flickr page if you are interested.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/dnieberding/sets/

    Cheers!

    Attached Files:

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  19. spacekadet

    spacekadet Been here awhile

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    Great answer homebrewer, that's exactly what I wanted, thanks for sharing.

    Did the rental guy arrange the racks for you?

    How much side tracking did you do away from the direct route?
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  20. Homebrewer

    Homebrewer Ride, Rest, Repeat..

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    The racks were on that particular bike already. I chose that one to rent.

    I had a flight home from Saigon in 10 days. Would have loved to ride north for a couple weeks, then go south. Didn't have much time to do any side trips. As for the route, dont stress too much beforehand. Phung can sell you a good map, and show you the route. Stay on the small roads through the countryside away from the major thoroughfares whenever you can. I flew into Hanoi at 2:30 AM, with nothing more than a suitcase, runners, shorts, and tshirts. They arranged a room in their partner hotel next door for cheap. The next morning went shopping within about 5 blocks, I went to the bank, bought raingear, poncho, got a cell SIM with data, and was on the bike heading out by noon with everything I needed. Phung can set you up with gear too.

    For some more tips, see my entry in Phung's Tripadvisor writeup under 'xxxHomebrewxxx':

    http://www.tripadvisor.ca/Attractio...iews-Phung_s_Motorbike_Rental_Sale-Hanoi.html

    Here's an extract from some of my review of Phung's:

    Tips?
    - Bring safety glasses, both clear and shaded for the road gravel, dust and bugs that get in your face.
    - Heavy large Poncho was great to put over my goretex raingear and my pack that kept the mud, grime and rain off.
    - Footwear gets wet and muddy, bring the right size (no big feet in Vietnam!)
    - Wrap your pack with a garbage bag before bungying it onto the bike, bring thick garbage bags and bungees.
    - Take the awesome west side road at Phong Nha Park to Khe Sahn, but pack some extra fuel in water bottles (230 kms, no gasd).
    - Lots of construction everywhere, potholes, pavement breaks, get the best suspension disc brakes, and seat for your butt that you can afford
    - Use google maps for navigation on a $9 two week tourist phone data SIM at Viettel (get it nearby). Bring a handlebar mount if you can for your phone to watch the google map as a GPS
    - Recharge phone and gopro batteries during the ride with a portable USB battery pack
    - All hotels I stayed at needed my passport as per their new law, leave something else as a bike deposit
    - Always take the small roads, not the main ones if you can. Far safer, more scenic, smoother, more fun, and way more friendly!
    - Vietnam highways are some of the most dangerous and deadly in the world, I was run off the road right off the pavement by busses, cars, and trucks 6 times, and hundreds of near death close calls. Ride in a way so someone's mistake doesn't cost you your life. That being said, I would come back and ride this again in a heartbeat. (but take a few weeks!)

    Here's another good google map route from this ride rental/tour site, I used their route as a general guide, however make sure you go on the West side jungle road to Khe Sahn from Phong Nha, it was the best:

    http://www.mototoursasia.com/eng/Motorbike-tours-Hanoi-HCM.php#.VTice8bM1UR

    Have fun!
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