Vintage dirt bike titling in Pennsylvania?

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  1. Chuck77

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    I've been searching with Google trying to figure out exactly the ins and outs of vintage dirt bike titles in Pennsylvania, as I am in Ohio, and wondered what it would take or what to expect if buying a vintage dirt bike in Pennsylvania.
    Apparently ATV titles or registrations are far more relaxed, and you can ride ATVs in any public riding area, but dirt bikes are only allowed on private land areas or national forests, unless they are street plated, and then you can ride in State Forest riding areas alongside un-plated ATV's. What a bummer!

    In Ohio, if it's a 1999 or newer dirt bike, it had better have a title, because it came with one new. If it is a pre-1999 off road vehicle in general, it is technically illegal to sell it without titling it, but you can get a title by paying $3.50 to the DMV for an "out-of-state Vin inspection" (even if it is in state), then take this piece if paper to the title office, and signing a sworn affidavit stating that you have owned it since before the 1999 off road titling laws took effect. Then they simply just issue you a title.

    What type of process is there in Pennsylvania for this? Google searching, you can find all sorts of info on the Ohio procedures, but I can find nothing clear on the Pennsylvania laws, rules, processes.

    Advice?

    Thanks!
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  4. Chuck77

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    I gathered that ATV's still require a title, but they are very relaxed about thst, and it seems as if all you need to do is go to 1 of 1000 dealers in the state and fill out a form for the Dept. of Conservation and Natural Resourcesand pay a $22 ATV titling fee. From reading elsewhere from an official PA title notary second hand words, it's not that simple for an off road motorcycle in PA.
    PA in general are INCREDIBLY STRICT about cars and trucks even, as I've known if people who had to either fix rusted holes in their car floor pans or else scrap their cars as they wouldn't get proper registration credentials! Apparently Pennsylvania government / legislators simply hate dirt bikes and dirt bikers, and think they are all hooligans who will ruin the slow paced family friendly ATV trail atmosphere!!!

    I'll read that other "dirtbikes are illegal in PA thread later. I saw that one in Google search results and assumed it was mostly regarding the issuse of off road dirt bikes nit ring allowed in state forests or any other state land trails where ATV's are allowed. What a farce! Dirt bikes have been around far longer than ATV's and ATV 3-wheelers!!!!
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  5. Denny Mann

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    Back in the mid 80's when the original law was written for PA ATV's dirt bikes were included. But in the last minute Legislative deal making dirt bikes were dropped from the bill. At that time dirt bikes had a small trail system through PaTRA and only 2 of those trails still exists. The titles for motorcycles and ATVs have nothing in common and are not handled by the same state agencies. So no to your idea of getting a antique plate and riding state ATV trails. With a PennDOT plate you can ride with a motorcycle any state forest road or motorized trail. The Pennsylvania Off Highway Vehicles Ass. has tried for years to get dirt bikes written into the ATV law with no success. Being from Ohio you are a long way from any of the state trail systems for ATVs and the system in the National Forest is closer and bigger that anything the state has for ATVs.
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  6. Chuck77

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    I was inquiring about antique plates, I was just inquiring primarily about titles, because we need titles on bikes to ride Wayne National Forest here in Ohio, and I see quite frequently vintage Suzuki and Kawasaki Enduros that myself or my friends are interested in buying, for sale on Pennsylvania Craigslist...

    That is why I was inquiring about titling. It is still unclear what type of title is readily available and common place for off-highway motorcycles in Pennsylvania, and particularly the titling process for vintage off highway motorcycles, 77-84 Suzuki PE and 86-88 Kawasaki KDX I am looking at always. Sometimes 81-86 Yamaha IT.
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  7. Matt_Mc

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    Unless you bought it from a dealer it is highly unlikely you will find a dirt bike with a title here in PA, unless something fairly new. We got a bill of sale without a proper title for many many years. I haven't bought anything new lately but I think they now give a title on new bikes. Bikes get passed around here willy nilly without any titling 99% of the time.

    There's almost zero places to ride state owned land on a dirt bike but a good amount of options for a plated dual sport. Lots of ATV riding land though. You can go the SD titling route and get a title and plate on almost anything.
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  8. Denny Mann

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    Titles have always been available for dirt bikes in PA but were not mandatory. So you may find an IT with a title just ask the seller. I had a 76 IT 175 that I titled when I bought it new and I wish I had it now. I do have a 73 CR 250 Honda with an antique plate but the only time I ride it on the road is for a parade.
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  9. Laoch

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    As stated above titles for dirt bikes in PA is not/has not been required. Most came with MCOs. I guess it's possible to get an old bike plated, just a bunch of fees and Penndot forms.
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