Vstrom 650 or 700GS?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Leafaye, Nov 15, 2015.

  1. Leafaye

    Leafaye Adventurer

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    Someone posted this on the BMW thread if they would buy their 700GS again and was debating which to buy. Thought I'd see what you guys thought!?
    I'm deciding between a new DL650 or a used 2013 F700 (because yeah they cost close to the same!)
    Anyone else decide between these two?
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  2. murdock2002

    murdock2002 Been here awhile

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    I had a f650gs (now called f700gs). Looking back, I would have bought the Suzuki...

    Cheaper bike...cheaper maintenance,...better dealer network...easier resale...better reliability...bike just as good.
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  3. Gobius

    Gobius Been here awhile

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    Unless you need to "prestige" of the BMW logo, I can't think of a single reason to buy the BMW over the Strom. Reliability and cost will be much better for the Suzuki, and in most other categories they are pretty similar.

    I had the older F650GS (thumper), and would probably take one of those over a newer F700GS.
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  4. RVDan

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    Depends how tall you are. The DL is meant for somebody short.
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  5. Deuce

    Deuce Crazy Canuck

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    650 Vstrom no question. I'm 6' 2" and it was all day comfortable for me. Did 5 sections of the Idaho BDR in late September. Great bike on and off the highway. :1drink
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  6. paroldeley

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    I agree with the other posters. In addition, the DL650 "XT" version has spoke wheels.
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  7. Pecha72

    Pecha72 Long timer

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    That there is one of the more bizarre claims I´ve seen this month.
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  8. RVDan

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    Why? I have a 2015 DL650XA and it puts my knees way too high for comfort and the bars too low. I'm only six feet tall but the ergonomics are the same as when I'm riding the Honda Grom.

    As soon as the DL1000 becomes available with the spoked wheels I'll be upgrading. The seat to peg distance is several inches taller and the bars are a little closer, it's much more comfortable for someone six feet tall.
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  9. Woody2627

    Woody2627 Grey Wobbler

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    One is a 650, the other is an 800. Keep that in mind.
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  10. Pecha72

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    Not saying you´re wrong - but would the 700GS solve these problems? (I honestly don´t know as I´ve only ridden the F650GS twin, but at least that model would not have been an ergonomic improvement for me over the DL650-07 that I had at that time).
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  11. ianbh

    ianbh Been here awhile

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    Owned two Wee/Glees. Put 40K on the 2010 I bought used and 28K on my 2013. Liked them both.
    Found a 2009 F650GS in August. Bought it because I felt I needed a lower, lighter bike.

    Did my usual month long trip this Fall on the BMW. Liked it OK except for a few things. Like the Glee better but need a lower bike at 74 years of age. 10 years ago, would stick with the Suzuki.
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  12. danptobin

    danptobin Been here awhile

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    the wee is a really good bike. seems to be the most versital in its class. other in its class may do 1 thing better but none do as wekk at as many things
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  13. Tim_Tom

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    Why not get a lightly used Strom 650 and have tons of money left over for gas and farkles?
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  14. acap650

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    Owned a 1st gen DL650 for a few years and 20K miles. Not much bad to say about it except at 5'4" , 28" inseam I found the ergos a bit large. Also, top heavy and not too stable in crosswinds. I decided to downsize to a lowered DR650 and it's perfect for 90% of the riding I do. But the 10% long distance rides still required something larger so I added a 2010 F650GS twin. Compared to the DL it fits me better and is easier to handle with a lower CG from the under seat tank. I do miss the 650 v-twin though. The GS makes the same power but is buzzy and I don't feel it will be as durable in the long run. Bottom line, if the DL fits you and you can handle it, I don't see a reason to go for the GS.
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  15. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    Being about the same height, I understand that few bikes are comfortable stock. But unless you decided what you want is more power, a better seat, better angled bar with risers and footpeg lowering blocks fix these issues easily (and actually result in a roomier bike than a stock V2), w/o adding 30 lbs of extra weight. Not to mention a lot cheaper than a new bike.

    Based on my ride on a F650/700GS, the bars are closer, but there is less legroom than in a stock DL650.

    Gustavo
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  16. RVDan

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    I also want more power, the 650 runs out at high speed, and having to run up to 10000 rpm is kind of annoying.
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  17. squish

    squish Out of the office.

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    When the F800 came out I was geeked, I thought it would be the perfect bike

    Then I rode one, and we didn't get along, at all. The bike's suspension was louder then the engine
    The engine was boring, the bike lacked feed back and felt kind of overall disconnected and kind of dull.

    But I know folks who love em, and have put tons of miles with no issues.

    Different strokes.

    I ended up with a 2012 DL650
    And I've been happy.
    20K miles and zero issues, 24K miles on my last DL650 (2004) also with zero issues.

    That said, I'm guessing in less than two years I'll have an Africa Twin.
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  18. Kawidad

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    What he said, XT version or a used Versys, which can be had very cheaply.
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  19. Little Faus

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    I have a 2004 DL650 with 40k miles on it. I have been to Mexico, Canada, and the west coast several times. Never had any mechanical issue with the bike. Add a more comfy seat (I have the Seat Concepts), and a taller windshield (I'm 6'2"), and it is a great touring bike. The BMW will not be as reliable, is much more expensive to maintain and buy, and the dealers have a longer wait time. Easy choice to make.
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  20. Soldier311

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    Do what? The DL is typically known to suit taller people better.
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