Vstrom question?

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Keithert, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

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    There are much better weapons available. A Strom off-ROAD (not just off pavement) is like a dog walking on two legs: the interesting thing is that it does it at all, not that it does it well.

    I used to be VP of an Enduro club; when I had my DL1000, I also had a DRZ and a GasGas 200 (2-stroke). The Strom was NOT what I would choose for the woods. Just because some guy insists on doing it doesn't mean that it is a good bike for it. Instead of going for a lot of aftermarket stuff to armor up a mixed surface road bike and change its suspension, and STILL have it be a heavy pig, if you want a bike for off-ROAD then buy a dirt bike.

    OTOH if you want to do mixed surface long distance RTW type stuff for less cost than a BMW-GS, go for it. I'll say it again, just because some particular person wants to make a silk purse of a sow's ear, doesn't make it a good choice for the other 99.9% of us.
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  2. Downs

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    Maybe he got the HP numbers backwards I didn't think the 1k came in Adventure format.
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  3. garandman

    garandman Wandering Minstrel

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    2012 V-Strom 1000 Adventure

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    95hp would be about right.
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    Hmm.... I stand corrected :freaky
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  5. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    I had one in 2002. The wee hadn't come out yet. And I liked it, was very fast. Would do 125 two-up. Don't ask me how I know. I was going to kill myself on it, that or one of the dirtbikes, so I sold 'em all and quit for 3 years. That didn't last very long. :rofl

    Think I'll trade the 800XC in for a Stelvio. :lol3

    The 'strom is a very good budget bike. A helluva lot better than a KLR. It's an honest to goodness road bike that will fill the ADV role pretty darn good. The v-twin motor is a peach. It's a cheap japo bike though, but for a lot of people they just don't care or even notice. Tremendous following, and they do a lot of touring. Reliable as an anvil.

    I really think a guy needs to have at least two bikes, one for dirt and one for road. Then any others to fill his dreams. Before I die I'm gonna have a Ducati and a Harley. That's just all there is to it. :freaky
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  6. garandman

    garandman Wandering Minstrel

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    On HD forums the two most common "other" bikes seemed to be Ducatis and Hayabusas.
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  7. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

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    Doesn't even matter if it comes that way. You can individually buy hard bags, bash plate, crash bars, whatever you need to make it into an "adventure" bike.
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    Downs KK6RBI

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    Well he used adventure in the model name. I thought he was referring to the 2012+ DL650 Adventure which is the only adventure I thought they made till someone showed other wise.
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  9. hendikaf

    hendikaf Been here awhile

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    Hi ,
    It is clear that the Dl650 or 1000 are not off road bike and not even in the same category that KTM or triumph and BMW , after 45000 miles with mine ( about 6000 miles of dirt and gravel road in SA and CA) I still love the bike . the feeling is great on hard pack dirt or gravel and very confortable on road . the bike is not light like a 650 thumper but will carry you and your gear 2 up to the end of the world without braking down . if you can lift the bike to get a better ground clearance you will be surprise how well it can be driven off road. I had the 1150 and 1200 GS ADV ( 160000 miles on them ) and love the bike but they are way too heavy and to me not as reliable . if you are looking for a cheap bike the dl650 is perfect for most of user and weekend warrior , if you need better off road I recommand a DR650 (not two up ) or an XR650L ( both will not do 80M/H on highway in a confortable manner.
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  10. sierraoffroad

    sierraoffroad Long timer

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    i explored a few unmaintained roads that go from MA up into VT on my weestrom and was quite pleased with the performance in soft soil and rocky conditions. i'm glad i had a skid plate. my friend was on his super tenere and I could see that he has way better suspension, but the weight of the S10 was a little tough to work with. overall the weestrom is a terriffic adv bike. offroad experience comes in very handy since the weestrom is not exactly an enduro bike.
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  11. dino1

    dino1 Been here awhile

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    Also think about buying a nice used bike, how much $ could you lose if you didn't like it? It's not like your signing your life a way at the bmw dealership.

    Just today I turned over the cushions on the sofa and raided the change jar and found enough for a KLR.
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  12. jokermtb

    jokermtb Blues Ripper

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    It's the Gold Wing of dirt bikes........
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  13. browneye

    browneye PIN IT & BANG GEARS

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    I dunno...it lools like a road bike with knobbies on it.
    My DL1000 would rattle like crazy in the fairing and cowling, like a bunch of plastic. The versys did that too.

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  14. Schlug

    Schlug JockeyfullofBourbon

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    Rattle and clunk. Those forks... those forks.

    I don't see why you couldn't buy a cheap one of these used and stop fixing the tupperware on it and ride it until it either handgrenades or burns so much oil it's worthless.

    The suspension is junk. I wonder what it might cost to upgrade the forks and the rear shock. Maybe some spoked wheels.

    Bars that don't bend at the thought of a drop. Maybe some dog bones to lift the arse end a bit. A better bash guard so the exhaust header isn't smashed flat.
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  15. dentvet

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    I just bought a used one to see what the hubbubb was about. I'm pleasantly surprised at the ergos which let me stand easily. This single feature makes it so much more capable than ordinary streetbikes, potentially.

    Riding it standing makes you an active participant in the process which makes up for some suspension deficiencies. active rider beats static rider.

    The motor has a ton of power on tap but its pretty tractable once the "chudder" was eliminated.

    It should be fine for the typical forest roads one encounters. I'm thinking of building a trailer for it to pull an offroad bike, though...

    I contemplated doing a fork upgrade for more travel. xr600 forks will slide right in as will DRZ tripleclamps etc. I think i'll hold off and see if i actually kepp the bike for a while.
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  16. DuneJumper

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    Leaving two bikes outside, under tarps, in the Ohio river valley for three years, I will add this:

    The 02 BMW R1150gsa, which had a rough life with me the previous 7 years of plenty of offroad riding, and the 04 Wee-Strom, which had a good life until the girlfriend took over.

    Both bikes were ridden in the snow on occasion and, having lived with old BMWs for most of my life, I wasn't aware that what is ok for them is not ok for the DL650.

    The GS looks and rides like it always has and the wee-strom has significant rusting on all exhaust system surfaces and there is enough corrosion to lock up both front and rear brakes. Girlfriend is not happy with the results (two-up these days).

    She is tall and can flat foot the v-strom with ease, but she does not like the weight distribution (fuel up high seems the reason) and notices the supple factor (ohlins helped) on my GS compared to the wee's.

    After some research it looks like BMW will provide the wee's replacement, and a used 650/700 gs (twin) that isn't at all Chinese seems the best fit. Post 2011 production was entirely German?

    Enjoyed the wee-strom's physics if not the geometry, and would have considered a 2012 for the money, but the side by side rust test leaves the Suzuki out for us.

    yeah I know, garage it or care for it better, but what adventure bike should need coddling? answer: not mine
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  17. danptobin

    danptobin Been here awhile

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    Im thinking of getting a Vstrom 650. I plan on doing some distance riding on it. Is the adventure version worth the extra money or could I get the regular one and buy the hard cases and rack for less? Ill need the storage the hard cases have and I want to put Rotopax fuel cans on the luggage rack (Ive been place where I went 100mi before seing anyplace to get gas).
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  18. Downs

    Downs KK6RBI

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    The general consensus is buy a standard model and outfit like an adventure unless you need to finance the whole purchase.


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