Vstrom - Tenere - Explorer

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by mup, Jan 7, 2013.

  1. mup

    mup Adventurer

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    I think it is safe to say the Tenere is better than the Vee off road, and the Explorer is better than the Vee on the road, but what are the reverse results?

    Can anyone give an experienced on-road comparison between the Vee and Tenere?

    Can anyone give an experienced off-road comparison between the Vee and Explorer?

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  2. Pecha72

    Pecha72 Long timer

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    Keep in mind DL1000 hasn't really changed in a decade. Others cost more, and can do more off-road, though it's relative, cos they're all very heavy. Also can't get ABS for the current DL1000, but otherwise it's a good touring bike for changing road conditions, and engine goes on forever, if maintained properly.

    Maybe it'll be a more valid comparison next year with the new DL1000?
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  3. Dcc46

    Dcc46 Been here awhile

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    Can't speak for the other two ,but the Tenere eats up the miles on the highway just fine. I've done a few 500+ mile days and It can cruise 80+ all day long. Only thing it lacks is cruise control , but that is easily solved with a throttle lock.
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  4. ArmyMedic

    ArmyMedic Flyin' Elvis, UT Chapter

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    Haven't ridden the Explorer but owned a Vstrom 1000 and now a Tenere. I'll take my Tenere all day long. Vstrom feels very big and has the worst wind dynamics of any bike I have ever ridden. Scary as hell in crosswinds. Helmet buffeting is horrible too. Tenere works great in all situations.
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  5. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    I came off a Vee as well to a Tenere. Had a Vee for 8 years. Just adapted to it's
    weak spots and enjoyed it. Along comes the Tenere and made me realize what I
    had been missing. It trumps the Vee in every catagory but price. And even then
    it's worth every penny. Off road it's actually fun.:D
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  6. DaFoole

    DaFoole Pacific Avenger...

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    Like Pluric says (damn I hate to say that...:lol3) no question about which I'd choose. I had a DL1000 for 7 yrs, spent thousands of dollars to sort it out and was pretty happy with it but in terms of comfort, wind management and off-road prowess it falls FAR short of the Tenere even after the upgrades.
    Lots of 7-800 mile days of both...Tenere much more comfortable, stable.....winner, Tenere.
    Dirt roads on both...Strom twitchy, unstable and often scary. Tenere planted, stable, goes were you point it. ABS works GREAT off road....winner, Tenere.
    Ease of maintenance...winner, Tenere.
    Two up...my SO loves the Tenere's perch were the Strom had her squirming.
    Handling two up about the same (Heavily modified Strom...brakes/suspension)...winner, Tenere.
    Juice for lights, heated grips/gear. Tenere more than doubles the Stroms output...winner, Tenere.
    Cost...VStrom

    The only place the modified Strom shined compared to the Tenere was a series of real tight curves. Faster corner transition on the Strom mostly based on steering geometry...
    Off road the thing always felt like it wanted to nap....and often did...:lol3

    Great bike but progress does indeed march on.

    The Triumph looks great. It would have been on my short list had it been available. Having not ridden one I can make no comparison. The lack of dealers might have been an issue but probably not.


    Then...

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    ...and now

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    ...packing light is my forte....:lol3

    BTW, the road seen on the Tenere pic (Valley of the Gods) was ridden with both bikes at different times. Scary on the Strom, fun and fast on the Tenere...both loaded to obscene levels....
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  7. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    I'm surprised. I thought chiffon packed down better than that.:scratch

    Peter Marshall: Paul, why do Hell's Angels wear leather?
    Paul Lynde: Because chiffon wrinkles too easily.
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  8. DaFoole

    DaFoole Pacific Avenger...

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    Different color outfits you idiot!

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  9. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    Good point. I try to be understanding to the needs of you Raven Riders and I sometimes
    forget what it takes to back up certain lifestyle choices. Sorry. I can only imagine what
    even a few extra hats must add to your packing plans.:eek1

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  10. M Singer

    M Singer Been here awhile

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    All of that goes double for me!
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  11. goodcat8

    goodcat8 I can pass this guy.....

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    The possible vstrom 1000 remake coming out soon could be interesting
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  12. mup

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    Thanks for the replies so far. I keep thinking I need to upgrade, but I don't want to give up the power of Vee. If I understand you all correctly, the Tenere doesn't give up any power to the Vee (clutch mod notwithstanding). I really want to like the Explorer, but don't want to get anymore incompetent in the dirt. And, with the small amount of dirt I do ride, I certainly don't want to go down in power. It seems the overall cost of ownership is less on the Tenere, too. Anyone want to chime in on the Explorer argument?
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  13. burmbuster

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    The motor on the Explorer is far superior to the other two bikes. I havent ridden an Explorer off road so I can't speak to that. I would question the cost of ownership vs. the other two as well. I believe all 3 bikes are very reliable and Triumph does not follow BMW's path when it comes to parts and service pricing. As with any decision, ride all three in stock form and you should be able to sort it out in short order.
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  14. RED CAT

    RED CAT Bumpy Backroader

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    Is very top heavy. Good street bike though with lots of 135hp. Not very good in the dirt compared to the Tenere.
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  15. Rick West

    Rick West Function not Farkles

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    Triumph did the right thing with the Explorer by making it pretty much what the buyers of large dual sports want. A street bike. Triumph knows that most of these bikes are being used for pavement touring, so they gave the Explorer the best engine in the class for what the bike will be used for. That engine is miles ahead of the S10 and the Vee-strom engines.

    The fact that the Explorer is really bad off pavement will not mean much to buyers of the large dualsports sadly. That engine though will bring Vee-Strom buyers to Triumph if they can afford it and people considering a S10 if they are not pretending about how much off pavement riding they really do.
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  16. ph0rk

    ph0rk Doesn't Care

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    There is a pretty hefty price difference between the s10 and explorer for now, though, as there are plenty of leftover 2012 teneres (~$13k OTD is somewhat easy to get), explorers aren't nearly as discounted. As these deals dry up, the gap will narrow.
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  17. RED CAT

    RED CAT Bumpy Backroader

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    Think you street guys would be surprised how much gravel/dirt some of us really do on our S10s. And for the dirty end I'll take the S10 any day. Just try and keep up. Bring your Multis and Explorers.:evil
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