Wanna be electrician can't figure thus out.

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  1. Bob Tosi

    Bob Tosi Long timer

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    I'm trying to get my new dishwasher installed. My problem is I have no power at the outlet. It us a single Romex in the box. I've checked all the surrounding outlets and switches hoping to find the leg off to the dishwasher outlet, but I can find the feed to the dishwasher outlet. I tried to tone out the wire to the breaker panel but nothing. The breaker marked "dishwasher has power leaving so I'm essentially lost now.

    Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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  2. kirkster70

    kirkster70 moto junkie

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    It shouldn't be wired this way, but possibly a tripped GFCI outlet in the kitchen that feeds the dishwasher? I've seen stranger things than that...

    Was it hot before? How long ago?


    I've also seen bathroom and outside GFCI receptacles feeding kitchen loads and vice-versa. It's not supposed to be that way, but it's more common than you think. Might be a good place to look, anyway.
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  3. Benesesso

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    Try replacing the circuit breaker for the dishwasher.
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  4. WoodButcher

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    The switch by the disposal switch is on, right?
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  5. Bob Tosi

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    Switch by disposal is on. It had power then quit??????

    There's no short or ground fault on the line. It's like it's open somewhere.
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  6. trailNtent

    trailNtent Been here awhile

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    Around here it would be wired so that one of the receptacles on the yoke is hot all the time for the dishwasher, the other is switched for the disposal. Are you sure you're plugged into the right one? Do you have a 3 wire romex in the box?
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  7. Kafn8td

    Kafn8td Been here awhile

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    You've been to my house! Blow dryer in the upstairs bathroom and microwave at the same time and pop. :huh
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  8. SPEIRMOOR

    SPEIRMOOR Been here awhile

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    Check the outlet with a test plug such as this one.If no power try meter/tester on the breaker and prove thats working correctly. I've seen them fail in the "ON' position.
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  9. Rocket Scientist

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    If its tagged in the breaker panel as "Dishwasher" I personally would remove the hot (black) wire & neutral (white) & follow suit at the dishwasher itself. With an open circuit I would then use a volt meter & double check to make sure theres no voltage across the line itself. After that is verified, I would hook up the meter in the OHM's setting & put the black wire on one side & white on the other while at the other end short the 2 together & check for a solid short across the meter. If you dont get a solid short & only get K-Ohms, more than likely you have an open side of the wire somewhere. You can use the copper (accessory ground) as a shorting side also to determine if its the hot or neutral side thats open. If the line continuity tests out, Id say its probably the breaker itself at the panel. Hope this helps.
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  10. troidus

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    Does the "dishwasher" breaker control the alarm clock in the master bedroom? Could be a joke by the PO.
    :D
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  11. baloneyskin daddy

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    If there was a short across the wires the breaker would be tripped,,check for continuity to the breaker box.more likely a break in the wires
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  12. kirkster70

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    ....also if someone "backstabbed" the switch instead of using the side terminal screws, that may be your problem.
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  13. gsweave

    gsweave Yinz, blinkers are on, since 05

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    Just run a new line/with breaker

    Should be updated to a individual circuit .
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  14. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    +1

    That one got me. DAMHIK. :lol3

    Who's F'n idea was that anyway? Is it code? Has to be.
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  15. Wistrick

    Wistrick Been here awhile

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    If you have power leaving the breaker then sound like you may have lost a neutral..(white wire) check the small slot side of the outlet to ground...If you get 120v then u have neutral problem.....IIf you still stuck PM me...

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  16. Bob Tosi

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    Well everyone thanks for all the input. I kinda gave up because the wife was getting pissed. I called my electrician and he came over and fixed it. Don't know what they problem was but will find out when I get home.
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  17. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    You wussed out eh. :huh

    Wifey now going to be pissed about a $250 service call for a loose wire? Lose lose situation.

    How much is that call going to cost ya?

    I should probably shut up, I'm a wanna be auto mechanic.:lol3
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  18. Bob Tosi

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    Lol.....rotflmao
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  19. kirkster70

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    Thanks for stringing us along. :roflj/k

    ...and now we're dying to know. What's your electrician's phone number? We need to get to the bottom of this. :D
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  20. Dave in Wi

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    If he gave away all his secrets, he'd be out of a job!
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