War time hacks

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by fyr, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. zundappuk

    zundappuk Adventurer

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  2. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    The fenders look like the first type used, and the rigid sidecar frame is also from very early on.

    Not "valuable", but I wouldn't discount it so quickly, not many early or war era M72's here.
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  3. D.Bachtel

    D.Bachtel Been here awhile

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    I could use the frame, should be easier to bolt up to my Zundapp than my Danish ACAP that was intended for a Nimbus flat stock frame.

    Should anyone happen to do a recovery let me know..... have trailer will drive.


    Don in Nipomo
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  4. fyr

    fyr iRoast Coffee

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    The build up was exciting... but it wasnt a Zunny or R75
    Im missing something. I need a Xmas lift.. Anyone got a present to self lined for this Christmas.... NOS 1939-45 outfit?
    Or Parts for..
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    Me: Im going to pannier up my Ural...
    Then save my dosh for the mother lode.
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  5. vortexau

    vortexau Outside the Pod-bay

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    If you are prepared to consider WWI . . . . .

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    From H-D's own website:
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  6. GreatWhiteNorth

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    One serious looking rig. Must be rare as hens teeth. Thnx for that.
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  7. MotoJ

    MotoJ Mobtown Hacker

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    I just picked this up after driving by it for months. The seller brought it back from Lithuania. 50's vintage M-72, either IMZ or KMZ. Same sidecar fender and leaf springs. Yours looks like a pretty original military rig by the look of the front fender and the frame loops over the sidecar fender. I think you passed up something with a little value. The M-72s were directly copied from the the R71s for the military, and the quality was much higher than subsequent Urals and Dneprs sold to civilians. As another inmate said, there's quite a following developing for these M72s. You can still get most of the parts you need to restore them, pretty reasonably. I could use that tranny in the pics! That sidecar frame and fender is worth something. So, where is it?
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  8. bmwhacker

    bmwhacker Still on 3 wheels

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    The bike is in So. Ca.
    The owner isn't actively trying to sell it. I haven't been able to get him to name a price, other than someone supposedly offered him $2000.00 for it a couple years ago. That amount seems a little high to me. I would drag it home for $500.00 tops but I doubt he'd take that offer.
    In a usable condition, what are these things worth?
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  9. MotoJ

    MotoJ Mobtown Hacker

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    ......depending on level of completeness and originality. The have a big following in Europe but there's not many M72s over here. I paid under 2K and I'm told that was a pretty good deal. They're obviously not worth the same as a BMW, but a well sorted rig might fetch 7K. If you could get it for $500 you could easly recoup that in parts. Lots of hassle with shipping, etc. If you do buy it please PM me.....
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  10. zundappuk

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    In my garage yesterday after being in storage for 4 years :freaky
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  11. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass The AntiHarley

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    We need to know much more! With pictures please.
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  12. fyr

    fyr iRoast Coffee

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    Aaack, Great Scott!:clap

    Such a tease....... we need..........MORE INFO!!!
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  13. bmwhacker

    bmwhacker Still on 3 wheels

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    Damn!!!!!!!:eek1
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  14. retroone

    retroone Long timer

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    Is that a tank bike on the right :dunno



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  15. zundappuk

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    If by that you mean a Kettenkrad, then yes:evil

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  16. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass The AntiHarley

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    Damn you!!! Ve demand to zee your papers UND! more pictures order kopfen vill rrroll!
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  17. MotoJ

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    I was looking at the pics of this RPOC again. Was the sidecar tub there? I didn't notice. Anyway, on the tank- that looks like the aircleaner feature- just above the tool box lid. A snorkel, for crossing streams. That's rare, and definitely makes it a military model M-72 (the tank anyway). The front wheel stand is a military feature too, as is the sidecar frame loop that was already mentioned. Did you notice any Soviet "star" stampings on the motor anywhere?

    As a matter of fact, looking at the motor close-ups again, the castings actually look pretty nice. Much nicer than my later M72. Did you notice any markings anywhere? What did the carbs say? Were they CCCP K37s, or were they German Bings? It could conceivably be a BMW R71, although that is pretty unlikely. That air cleaner and fender are really intriguing. If I lived close I'd drop by with my truck and $750 (maybe even a thou) and get a nice project to keep myself outta trouble.

    So whatever happened? Is it still lying around in the guy's barn in pieces? It looks all there- someone needs to rescue and resurrect the old girl. They clean up pretty well- a little rust is NBD. They were made to run despite all kinds of abuse. Check it out:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3SSgIEI4PE

    If you were up for it, you could probably get that collection of parts up and running for $2-3K. Not restored, but a good runner. Parts are available. How many other 50-60 year old vehicles can that be said about these days? Sorry- looking at that old neglected bike makes me feel the same way I do looking at the SPCA dogs for rescue!
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  18. oppozit

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    Neither the front wheel stand, nor the overarn sidecar frame indicate a military model. They merely give a date range for production The overarm sidecar frame was introduced in 1942-3 to replace the stub axle (which was prone to smapping off,). IMZ made the M-72 from 1951 onwards for Government and private use. The overarm sidecar frame remained in production until 1956/7 when the M-72M and M-72N were introduced with torsion bar swingarms. Your "aircleaner" seems to be sitting on top of the fuel opening. An unlikely place for an aircleaner. The usual spot for aircleaners when tank mounted was the toolbox. Rare was a military tank aircleaner. They were also used on the M-72K (Kross) and they are just as rare.
    Dating information is often found inside the electrical components.

    Also no BMW R71 was ever produced with rear plunger reinforcements.
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  19. fyr

    fyr iRoast Coffee

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    Good eye retroone!
    Lets see that too!
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  20. D.Bachtel

    D.Bachtel Been here awhile

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    I'm still game..
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