Washington State Three Wheel Endorsement Testing

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  1. BigFatAl

    BigFatAl Been here awhile

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    $220 for my license with a CDL,3 wheel endorsement and enhanced !!
    That hurt !!


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  2. DavePave

    DavePave Been here awhile

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    Ouch!
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  3. BigFatAl

    BigFatAl Been here awhile

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    I know !!!!!!
    And I had to produce a original birth certificate OR my passport,neither of which I carry with me !!.


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  4. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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    My class 7 endorsement in WA came "free" thanks to an endorsement from VA earned through a course in Northern VA. Course was cheaper in VA and worth every cent. My aggressive swerving segment resulted in me "abandoning" the sidecar and crashing it into the instructor's trailer - left a good dent for stories for future students. It was a great lesson on swerving and dealing with a "controlled crash" during a class. The entire course was great in developing "body memory" for driving a sidecar. I have always recommended STEP courses to others since taking one.

    No comments to offer about the other stuff...
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  5. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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    EDLs are also worth every cent to me for not having to carry a passport up north. I also signed up for the NEXUS program - saved me many many hours at the border. BTW, NEXUS includes TSA precheck and I think it is cheaper than just signing up for TSA precheck.
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  6. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    I do want to say again that we do encourage people to go take the S/TEP classes. We also practically insist they we spend some time with the ones who have trusted us to build a sidecar outfit for them. We go over riding technique on paper, basic adjustments and also do some hands on exercises at the time of pick up. Learning Good technique is essential to developing a good riding style to a point that it comes natural for the operator. It does take time and there is always room for improvement with all of us. We have also went through this with some who were just thinking of getting a sidecar. If you are in that category feel free to give me a call at the shop. 570 837 5120. Oh, before anyone gets all wound up over this we do not use the Evergreen Curriculum and we still encourage people to go take a class. Oh, and No, I am not a 'certified' instructor in case anyone out there is actually concerned about that. I am only saying this due to past hassles that came our way when we did sidecar operator training at the ISOK Sidecar Ron Dee Voo for a few years in a row.
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  7. FR700

    FR700 Heckler ™©®

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    Excellent, and as it should be.

    Though, I must confess, I've had a few that fib'ed about their haven ridden a sidecar. They seem to think that no one notices as they kill the flower bed/garbage can as they wobble their way out the drive :lol2


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  8. Gasket

    Gasket Wandering Samurai

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    So Claude, have you ever put a car on a Triumph Rocket 3 Touring? I'm looking at one tomorrow.
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  9. Gasket

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    I must admit that I got a chuckle from your story about crashing into the instructor's trailer but realize it was not funny at the time. Still, it's a good hack story. I was not laughing as I drove into the trees about two feet from the deer trail from which the doe and fawn emerged at high speed and as I pondered my actions, wondered if I could have done anything different. I also fully realize that if I had not been practicing a car flying maneuver on a rural, deer infested road, or if I had mastered the skill of flying a car that seemed to be shoulder high, I wouldn't have this cool hack warrior dent in my right shin below my knee from impacting the upper forward mounting bolts. We live and learn.

    And pagomichael, American Samoa??? How cool is that. Back in my early Navy days in the late 60s we had a point to point, low baud rate circuit from the Pearl Harbor message center to American Samoa. On the mid watch when all was quiet I used to chat with the person unknown there on the other end who invited us all down for a visit. I never visited but always wanted to. One of those unfulfilled bucket list items.
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  10. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    Have done four Rockets ..one was my own (loved the thing...no lack of power (duh)....it was a huge test bed for our torsion bar sprung plate frame design. After running that chassis on smaller bikes, on and off road i figured if it had any flaws the rocket would tip me off. Kick myself for not videoing that setup in motion. Broad slide almost full lock in lefties and right handers with the rear tire lit up...amazing rig. Did one LBS outfit on a Rocket. That was also an amazing outfit. Plus a couple other ones with our own sidecar on them. One in house now is for a wheelchair. Love those rockets!!
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  11. Bobmws

    Bobmws Curmudgeon At Large

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    You'll be a rich man if you can package and market that.......................
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  12. Gasket

    Gasket Wandering Samurai

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    My son in Bel Air now has my go fast Rocket, a 2007 Classic Tourer and the Tourings are a bit detuned, something that can be easily remedied.
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  13. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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  14. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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  15. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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    ^ that looks very familiar...
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  16. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    Ya think? :lol3
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  17. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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    :rofl
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  18. Scott of the Sahara

    Scott of the Sahara Been here awhile

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    I took the class last winter. It was a very good introduction to sidecars. I got enough experience to ride the Ural on the road and not crash it. Does Washington State have too many laws, yep. But this class WAS helpful and was not a waste of money.
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  19. RockyMtnRoadRash

    RockyMtnRoadRash Useful and decorative

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    Still one of my all time favorites, although the video of Claude backing his rocket into the shop is a classic too.
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  20. Gasket

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    The top pic is my first Rocket and the one I gave to my son, an 07 Classic Tourer. The bottom is the one I bought last week, an 09 Touring. I'll probably ride it through next summer and then consider adding a car to it. One of the issues I'll be looking at is required front end mod. Both have a 32 deg front end rake but I don't know if that helps with steering with a car attached.
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