Watched a friend and his son get knocked off today

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by biggziff, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. biggziff

    biggziff Funk Soul Bruvah

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    Left church and down to a little country "T" intersection. Guy in front of me stops at the stop sign, my buddy and his son are starting the left turn from the "T" part of the intersection to head to church for second service and as they're about at the 45 degree point the guy in front of me starts moving forward and left...I'm in the car yelling "don't do it....stop, stop stop" but he continues out and makes contact with the end of the front cowling then my buddy's leg/ankle and proceeds to push the bike over tossing both of them off...car's speed was maybe 3-4 MPH. Bike was maybe 5-8 mph.... result...broken left ankle for my buddy, cuts and such on his leg, his son has a few bruises, left bag departed the bike (Connie 1400) and ended up 30' from the intersection...how I have no idea....and rash on the bike.

    The gear he wears is a hi-viz jacket, helmet, gloves, dress pants and sneakers. Would a set of good boots have kept his ankle from breaking? Dunno..... weird thing to watch.

    Driver said he never saw them. Very difficult to comprehend how you can miss a bike right in front of you...4' away with a guy wearing hi-viz, but he sure didn't hit them on purpose.


    Be vigilant and keep repeating to yourself...."I am invisible.....I am invisible"
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  2. MADurstewitz

    MADurstewitz MADMark

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    Glad this wasn't worse. Ankle. Best protection: motocross boots. I never ride without mine.
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  3. ragtoplvr

    ragtoplvr Long timer

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    I know first hand Hi Vis can create a false sense of security. Some folks drive right into fire trucks, even trains. There is a difference between did not see them and did not even f*&%ing look. I am invisible, I am invisible.

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  4. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

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    Driver wasn't looking for a motorcycle. Seriously. Back in the day, I saw my Mom (long deceased now) do something very similar with a bicyclist (the guy managed to swerve away and not get hit). She specifically explained that she wasn't looking for a bicycle.
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  5. Kommando

    Kommando Long timer

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    Install a loud horn, and get familiar with using it. Swerving skills should be kept up to date too.
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  6. biggziff

    biggziff Funk Soul Bruvah

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    Not bad ideas, but in this case there wasn't time to sound a horn or any room to swerve unless he wanted to ride into a 3' deep ditch.
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  7. FirstPath

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    I've had close calls like this as a driver. What I find is the wide "A" pillars of the car will even hide a car if at just the right angle. Really need to look and wait just a beat to make sure it is clear. The driver probably looked to the right but never saw the bike sitting there.
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  8. motomuppet

    motomuppet Been here awhile

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    Scary stuff...glad it was not worse.

    I wonder about the MX boots comment. I use MX boots off road where speeds are relatively low, but not on road because they are so heavy. I wonder if in a high speed prang the weight of the boots would potentially make things worse for knees/hips with the inertia of the boots?

    I am sure someone far cleverer than I am could work out the physics of the added stress to the knee wearing Tech 10s while cartwheeling at 130kmph as opposed to a pair of flip flops?
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  9. Hair

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    That's quite the head line for a low speed crash.
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  10. biggziff

    biggziff Funk Soul Bruvah

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    heh...unintentional

    Update:

    Driver of the bike will have some screws installed tomorrow and then sit on a couch for a few weeks/months. His son is bruised, but otherwise as good as he was before the crash. The bike has yet to be inspected by an adjuster, but I think it's all cosmetic damage.
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  11. Hair

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    I hope that they mend quickly.
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  12. konta

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    Agree 100%. I use dual trumpet air horns with a compressor. Sounds like a truck! Believe me, people take notice.
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  13. daveinva

    daveinva Been here awhile

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    Your horn worked, right?
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  14. Maverik70

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    As vigilant as we all try to be, I hate to admit that I can see that happening. It may sound crazy, but I can't count the number of times I've nearly pulled out from an intersection in my '03 Surburban, and not seen FULLSIZE vehicles through the windshield! In my case the rearview mirror blocks out an entire vehicle from view. But I know this is a problem, and have gotten into the habit of slouching to look around the mirror to check for traffic. I just wish other drivers took their responsibility behind the wheel more seriously! Situational Awareness - Learn it, Live it... I'm glad your friend is gonna be ok. Too bad, as it could've been avoided. Its gotta be hard to sit there and watch helplessly. Here's to a swift recovery....
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  15. Mgbgt89

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    My sisters cobalt has massive a pillars due to the airbags in them. They will easily hide a full size truck at the right angle. Not to mention the rear side blind spot is massive. I hate that car.
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  16. biggziff

    biggziff Funk Soul Bruvah

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    WTF?

    Surgery done tonight and he's good to go!

    Thanks
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  17. mhpr262

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    Not sure if I get this right ... you mean you and the cager were coming "up" from the vertical part of the T and the motorcyclist was coming from the right hand, horizontal part and tried to turn left, or "down", into the vertical part?

    In that case I am pretty sure I almost was that same motorcyclist a few years ago ... the cager actually hit me, but it was just the lightest of touches, left a barely noticeable smear of paint (his :D) on my rear fender (Suzuki GS 500 at the time)
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  18. HanzoSteel

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    Glad your freind and his son are ok, it could have been alot worse.

    I try and be a very defensive rider. One thing I look for when I see a car might do the wrong thing and move into me is, I always looks at his wheels to see if they are going to move. Once I see them start inching I get in defensive mode and the best option to evert collision.

    And as Kommando stated, keep your swerving skills up to date as well as your braking skills.
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  19. DR Donk

    DR Donk Been here awhile

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    You would be amazed at what can hide behind those pillars. :eek1 When I do drive a car I always do the double check and as I start to move I look again.
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