We finally make it to Xilitla OR Scars are tattoos with better stories

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  1. wanderc2c

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    Real life has gotten in the way of posting our second day in Xilitla. Charlie is impatiently tapping his foot. It's coming soon.......

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  2. wanderc2c

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    Susan is one tough cookie. Through her protective gear she sustains burns on her shoulder and elbow. She hasn’t complained once. You know every muscle in her body has to ache. She’s given up on the bandages and gone for the “air is better” for healing method.
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    I&#8217;m starting to pick up on the ability to order great food. This becomes my favorite breakfast I try to order every morning. Huevos Mexiana con jamon. Nummy!


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    Today we will head to La Pozas sculpture gardens. But a walk through town first.
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    Check out the rock work in the steps above!

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    A beautiful rock wall. Think of all the hours fitting the rock


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    Our room is color coordinated with Craig!


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    It is nice to be off the bikes for a day. Paul and Kevin had suggested the back road in might not be the best choice for street bikes. Five of us set of to walk the distance and enjoy the beauty of the area. Betty, the dog whisperer calms the Doberman we assume nibbled on Paul as we pass him on our way to the gardens.

    The sculpture gardens had been high on the list of &#8220;to do&#8221;. We arrive to find Susan shopping at the street vendors outside. Shopping is her passion, but we can&#8217;t figure out where she puts it. Their bags don&#8217;t seem to explode. You&#8217;ll notice Susan is only traveling with a tank bag, and Bob is carrying the minimal gear the two bring along.

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    The tour we are offered is a &#8220;pay at the end&#8221; $200 delight, or about $2.00 each. Our guide grew up in the gardens under the watchful eye of his father, an employee. None of us can remember his name. The choice was a grand one. He had great passion for the gardens in his heart. A bus load of noisy youth so irritated him he went off to scold them to ask for peace for all enjoying the gardens. He came back and suggested we return here in July and August for the beautiful orchid blooms. The climate is perfect for them. Our guide, and some garden shots. We tip him well. It was worth it.

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    Ah. The textures of Mexico How long did it take to lay this path?


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    Peter, Betty, Craig and I head off back up the gravel road. Our lunch spot is half way back to town, a lonely restaurant along the way. It is owned by our guides Mother, who used to cook at the sculpture gardens. I order the special, a fish steamed in a banana leaf. We watch the cook as she exits the resturant and returns with a banana leaf for my meal. The moist fish was delicious!


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    It is a long way back up the hill to town. A house along the way reminds me of the &#8220;luxury&#8221; I live in at home.


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    We had tried to stop into El Museo earlier in the day but it wasn&#8217;t open yet, so we try again. It is discovered that it is a restaurant, with a surprise museum inside. The walls contain the handmade forms used to create the sculpture gardens. Dean notes they are very intriquite and maybe even more beautiful than the cement. We meet the owner. He is from New York, married to the grand daughter of the property manager for La Pozas. They returned to Xilitla to run an Italian restaurant. He is begging the tourists to return. Since the state department issued its travel warnings to Mexico, they hang by a thread. He is seen here in the photo holding his young child. With lunch still heavy in our stomachs, we offer to return later for dinner.


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    It is nap time for many. Charlie retreats to his room and begins to plan formulate the plan for the towns we can make. He arrives on our private rooftop for the riders meeting with Plan A and Plan B for consideration. We are heading towards Guanajuanto tomorrow.

    Betty has noted that there appears to be coffee beans growing on the steep slopes very high up in the mountains.
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    Dark of night surrounds us as we head back to El Museo for dinner. We are really stretching Charlies budget on this one, but he doesn&#8217;t seem to flinch much. We choose many different Italian dishes, and each one is as scrumptious as the next. Susan and Bob order Pizza. Check out the spagatti in the background. Keep El Museo on your list of restaurants when you visit Xilitla, you won&#8217;t be disappointed.

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    Good night Xilitla. We will be back and bring friends!

    Linda
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  3. cwc

    cwc Been here awhile

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    Dean Sez:

    We left Xilitla before 10am and headed south west on hwy 120.The mountain road was a very pleasant ride through lush green trees of hard woods, pines and tropical trees depending on the elevation of the road. It is quite amazing to see the mountain sides that are under cultivation, whether it be coffee plantations or corn fields. We saw several logging yards where the logs were being loaded by hand onto trucks. With two logs ramping from the ground to the rear of the truck bed, two men would use lever pikes to walk the logs up in the truck and then up the pile already on the truck. As we climbed in elevation we saw more indigenous people going about their daily lives, herding livestock, gathering fire wood, or attending to road side stands of food or handicrafts for sale. Some long hair and long tail hogs tethered near the road were interesting to see.

    [As we were heading toward Jalpan I spotted an interesting church in Landa de Matamoros so I drove in to look at it. A couple from Mexico were touring missions and shared their map of missions with us, That&#8217;s how we found our lunch stop &#8211; cwc]


    This nice señorita ended up giving us a map of mission locations.
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    Our lunch stop occurred in the mission town of Conca, we ate across from the mission at an open air metal roof restaurant where the señora would pat out and cook up your tortillas when you ordered a gordita or a taco. I had one refried bean filled, one pepper & potato filled, and one cactus filled soft tortilla. The chairs and table we ate at we're all hand hewn, sturdy and older than Fido. Really hit the spot for lunch. An ice cream sandwich for dessert was a cool treat.

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    We left Jalpan on hwy 120 west bound, 65 miles up and over the most beautiful mountain terrain on a well maintained road. Charlie said some of the forested areas were part of a biosphere reserve. The overall riding experience on hwy 120, is far superior to the "Dragon" in North Carolina. As on hwy 120 there were the most amazing vistas across ranges of mountains and vast spreading valleys.
    The hotel Las Vegas here in Cadereyta is homey and clean, with a price of $22.50 for two beds and two people.
    We split up for supper to suit tastes. I had a hamburger and delicious fries for $2.40.
    Today we did about 160 miles.The DR 650 delivered 61.6 mpg for the last 333 miles.


    Today was probably the most scenic and enjoyable ride of the trip. Hoping for more days like today in the ones that follow.

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    Our last night in Xilitla I spent some time plotting a route that would take us to San Miguel Allende and Guanajuato without going through Queretaro. The GPS and Guia Roji indicated that there might be a paved road that ran 15-20 miles above Queretaro and Google Maps more or less confirmed it. This was of some importance as some of the group was not comfortable on dirt roads. Tomorrow we&#8217;ll test my work.
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  4. acejones

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    There is a paved road from Tequisquiapan that runs north of Queretaro and skirts past the airport on the way to 57 and then over to SMA.
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  5. cwc

    cwc Been here awhile

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    We used the western part of that road, but took some smaller roads to get to it. All will be revealed.:D
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  7. cwc

    cwc Been here awhile

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    All will be revealed in due course.
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  8. cwc

    cwc Been here awhile

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    Editors Note: We had a little hiatus as Wanderc2c and I got busy with other commitments. As those in business for themselves will know, sometimes you have to make choices. Linda has chosen to put food on the table so I’ll just carry on without her and she can add stuff if she gets time.

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    We left Cadereyta Mantes under bright blue skies this morning and headed on the country roads toward San Miguel Allende. We passed through wide agricultural valleys with huge green house operations covering from ten to sixty plus acres all under glass or plastic. We saw a huge Pilgrims Pride chicken or turkey operation. In S M Allende we met a Canadian from Ontario on his way to the tip of South America, and Clive lead us over to meet his friend from Georgia, Art Boone, who moved to Mexico about 6 years ago and said it was the best decision of his whole life. He and his wife Carol had a very pleasant house and courtyard. Across the street Art had a real nice shop built where he rebuilt motorcycles.
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    After a couple hour visit we left town and stopped at a La Burger, an overpriced trendy place, with nothing to rave about as far as the hamburgers or fries.
    We then continued on to the town of Delores Hidalgo, and checked into the Anber Hotel where Charlie, the doctors, and I stayed several years ago. Touring Mexican Colonial Cities 2010 <o:p></o:p>
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    Not too many miles today, but for the most part an enjoyable day.


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    The route I picked for today was pleasant for the most part, but a bit strange. The road was OK, but in a couple of towns after Zamorano it turned to nasty potholed dirt. At the edge of town the road became paved again and I was able to forestall a mutiny among the dirt challenged contingent. If the people in those towns had voted for the right political party maybe they would have a better road now.:deal

    Once we were settled into Dolores Hidalgo we spent some time wandering around town and buying supplies, mostly food, before supper.


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  9. akaDigger

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    FNG now following. Xilitla in the title box caught my eye.
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  10. cwc

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    Yesterday we arrived in Guanajuato. The morning ride to Guanajuato was enjoyable through valleys and up over 8,500 feet in elevation mountain passes. The ride was less than an hour and a half from Delores Hildalgo. Charlie and Betty went to scout the central zone of town for a hotel, a tourist info man helped them locate Hotel mineral de Rayas with underground parking for the bikes. At $41 U.S. a room for two that seemed reasonable as we can walk most any place in the city center. The rest of us relaxed by the Catholic Church with the gold alter till Charlie and Betty came back lead us to the hotel.

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    Betty and I went downtown to look at some hotels. We managed to end up right in front of one of the hotels we were looking for just as an older gentlemen showed up to see if we needed help finding lodging. We did. He was in some way connected with the local turista bureau and went with us to check the hotel. It turned out there was no secure parking for 8 bikes. All the while we were dealing with a police officer that wanted us to move from the no parking zone. Our friend just blew him off and told us to meet him two blocks away where we looked at a second motel which also couldn&#8217;t accommodate us. On the third try we ended up at the Hotel Mineral de Rayas. Our friend refused compensation for his service so we thanked him and went to get the group.
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    The afternoon was spent wandering the city center and finding some food, which abounds with street vendors, side walk cafes, and tiny 4 stool take out places, and the large food court pavilion where every booth is hawking you over to try their fare. It was probably the pork sandwich I bought there&#8230;
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    Dean stopped in mid sentence here. He may at that point have been suffering from an affliction of the intestinal kind. The kind where you are afraid you are going to die, then you are afraid you won&#8217;t. He took some meds and the problem eventually went away. Dean doesn't complain often, so if he says he's feeling bad, he's REALLY feeling bad.

    We basically toured around town for a day and a half.

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  11. acejones

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    Guanajuato is one of the nicest cities in Mexico. Good food, nice scenery, and nice people. Its just a little difficult to navigate on a bike or driving a car.
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  12. cwc

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    No time for dogs or doors today. We are on the road.
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    We took our leave of GTO early to enjoy the chill as we headed for Dolores Hidalgo again and then on to San Luís de la Paz, Victoria and Santa Catarina. It was cloudy, but the rain held off til later.
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    In Santa Catarina I took a likely looking road, but it didn’t seem right after a bit. Fortunately we came to a scenic intersection where I stopped so the others could admire the scenery.
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    As they were looking around I got directions from a local and soon we were back on the right road.
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    The road was pretty nice with entertaining curves, good scenery and little traffic and soon enough we arrived in Peñamiller where we planned to have lunch.
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    There is probably some really neat place in Peñamiller to eat but we didn’t see it. However on the way out going toward Rt. 120 we found a friendly little roadside café.Those who thought they spoke Spanish ordered from the menu, others wandered into the kitchen and pointed at pots and used hand signs. I think some were surprised at what arrived, but everybody ate what was set before them and it was good.
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    The sanitario was downstairs and those that used it got to see what was left of the chivo being served upstairs.
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    After lunch one of the neighbors came by and our chief shopper got a deal.
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    After lunch we got on Rt. 120 again. This is a great road. Unfortunately it rained off and on much of the way to Jalpan.
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    In Jalpan we stayed here as recommended by Sjoerd B.
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  13. cwc

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    Google maps showed a road from Arroyo Seca (just north of Jalpan) up to Rayon so we decided to try it. It was a pretty decent but narrow paved road and there was some construction that was sloppy mud. In my mirror I saw Susan about half sideways in that mud, but she saved it. I think others had a similar experience.

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    We arrived at Hwy. 85 around lunch time and found this high end eatery right at the intersection.
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    Our neighbors at the hotel recommended a taco stand about a block up the street and the lady in reception said it was safe on the street until at least 10 p.m. so we went.
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    The food was good and families and couples came and went as we ate. We were included in conversations and generally had a good time.
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  14. slowoldguy

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    I liked the road from Arroyo Seco to Rayon, too. Really liked the little canyon midway. Pinhuan?
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  15. cwc

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    I remember being surprised by that being there. I think it is Pinihuán and it is about 10 miles south of Rayon.
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    You are right. I left out an i. D'uh. And apparently don't know where the accent mark is either. But.....I have a pic!!




    It don't have to be big to be grand. ;)


    And yeah. Sue's slippery road was well noted on our maps. Enjoying the report!!
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  17. cwc

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    Nice shot of it there. I remembered it as being bigger, but memory is a tricky thing.:cry

    The strange characters are here http://www.codetoad.com/html/text/ascii_characters.asp I find it easiest to just hold down the Alt key and type the three numbers.

    What maps were you using? I use the Guia Roji and in the GPS E32, but I really wouldn't want to bet my life on either of them.:D I think there is an app that will let me load Google Maps into my 7" tablet which would be nice.
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    slowoldguy Tire Tester

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    I had the Guia Roji Carretera and state maps and they were useless. We also had a GPS with Bicimapas and one with Cartografia E32. But ... we relied in the country on the old Mexican INEGI topographical maps available online. Country roads don't change much. The INEGI are useless in the urban areas and don't have any of the new toll roads. But we spent all our time in the country. Worked great for dirt roads and secondary roads.

    I will pm you some more Canon pics. Don't want to take over your thread.
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  19. cwc

    cwc Been here awhile

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    Our last day in Mexico was here. We just loaded up and headed north the way we came.

    The four that went to Pharr did find out how to get to the Pharr crossing without driving through the south part of Reynosa and that was much better than the way we came down on the first day.

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    Bob decided Susan’s license plate was too hard for the Border Patrol to read.
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    I want to thank the group for coming along. Everybody contributed to the success of the trip and there wasn’t a pendejo in the lot. Well, maybe one, but he’s doing the report so won’t be mentioned.

    Special thanks go to Dean for driving most of the way home when I was either coming down with something or suffering from post-trip depression. You couldn’t find a better guy to travel with.
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