That is pretty much what I thought, so that is why I asked. Now the owners of "modern" 2 strokes will not only have to deal with idiots invading every thread about two strokes in Thumpers and saying crap like "2 strokes are not thumpers! it is forums like this that are making idiots think that any single cylinder bike is a thumper! Thumpers are losing there identity because of the internet! And I am going to cry loudly about it when ever anyone asks a two stroke question in thumpers! I am going to the gym to sniff the exercise bicycle seats! Premix is Evil! Waaaaaaa!!!", but now when we ask where else can we ask the question, they will mistakenly believe that it should be posted here, and then there will be another shit fight trying to get it through there heads that it still belongs in thumpers... So can we send these guys to you to set them straight?