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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Night Ryder, Dec 21, 2010.
ahhhhh, sounded like Parepin at first....
let me help you out with the pros and cons.
first off all, I rode both of them
V-strom1000 and now own a Capo,.
weight: the Wee feels light compared to the capo, but after riding the wee-strom feels like a 600 bike, that's not comfortable. The Capo gets very comfortable when riding (solid on the road & twisties)
power: Capo feels stronger, more Torque
Ecu: TuneEcu (free program) for resetting faults,tuning, etc. on your Capo (no need for a dealer, do it your self on your laptop. Wee-strom needs a (s)tealer for such a thing.(expensive Powercommander for the tuning)
building quality: the Wee is just mass production bike (Suzuki had to build it very cheap & fast). Capo is the overall quality far better ,expect for the famous 2 brown connectors, due it's not waterproof it will oxidise and meld. (solution mosfet rectifier with waterproof connectors.) Coils issue: it's a Renault/peugeot car coil, so you'll find it everywhere original or aftermarket at a local car-parts store .
Engine: Wee-strom is detuned TL1000, Capo a detuned RSV mille (ROTAX V990) engine, so both are very reliable.
Springs: Wee-strom hard, Capo weak (change it with Hyperpro and you got a very different bike )
Brakes: Wee-strom nice braking power (upgrade GSX1000R brake calipers), Capo a little bit weak, but with this modification (RSV1000 supersports Brake calipers on a Capo )
So that's all folks......
b.t.w. this is my Italian Stallion
My problem with the Capo is this: the two examples I've seen on local Craigslist are earlier models than the OP is looking at, with the earlier style turn signals. Crash bars or no the bike doesn't look dirt-road droppable without punching a turn signal through the fairing.
And for the asking prices of either of those bikes I could get a newer Tiger 955, or a newer strom.
So it has nice tubeless wire wheels like a good adventure bike. But it doesn't seem to meet my main criteria for an adventure bike--a comfortable street bike that I can drop on a dirt road with minimal damage. Am I missing something? Is there an easy turn signal mod, or way to protect them?
Crashbars on the front sides like me from Hepco & Becker
See that Silver 2002 Caponord in the photo below;
It has this many miles on it;
No crash bars. Its 100 lbs too heavy to start with. Why add MORE weight?!? Its been down on each side at least twice at low speeds. All original plastic still on it.
Yeah, from this distance you can't see the black duct tape holding the upper fairing together, or the silver duct tape covering the wounded side plastics. You can just see the scuffing on the lower windshield & headlight. I'm thankful I have not been blessed with the "it must be shiny & perfect" gene.
Oh, and with proper mapping in the ECU, it still eats 1200GSs, DL1000s, & 950ADVs for breakfast!
I've had both. Capo...quality and comfort. Wee....butt-ugly enjoyable ride.
Capo, surely. I've had a 2004 VStrom 650, for one year (no ABS). Really a good bike but the Capo is "another world"! In 2005 I bought a new Capo My2001 (no ABS)... In November 2011, after 75k km, I sadly left "her", but I needed a new bike, with ABS etc (so I've bought Yamaha ST1200). Capo is really unforgettable .... She "eats" km, single, with pillion, with bags.... great road runner... I've never had any mechanic or electric issue... oil? what is? If you buy "her" you'll find a great friend....
question: did you EVER ride a Capo?
congrats!!!!!i've read only now 4th page of this thread i'm sure you'll have a great fun with this bike! and you'll forget where the mechanic is (only every 7500 km for manutention)
Yep - you're missing something; my Capo's been down three times (wife's drops, not mine!) on the factory crash-bars - and so far, the indicators are intact - worst I got was a slightly bent mounting when she dropped it over the edge of a forest track, and a busted mirror when it fell against a wall.
Just by looking, I'd say the Suzuki's plastics look more vulnerable.
Uh - BOTH my Capos are 2001-build -so the very first year and the worst wheel-issues I've heard of is that the spoke nipples sometimes rust when used on British roads in winter (Salt, slush - why would you bother?)
And as for testing a dirt-oriented ADV bike's brakes only on a sealed road? WTF - again, why bother? Like I said, I can lock the front wheel on asphalt if I really try - but they're not so sharp as to be locking all the time on dirt.
Perhaps it's Aprilia's answer to expensive, complicated and occasionally faulty ABS systems - just make the brakes more progressive and trust the rider to exercise some skill?
I have only had my Caponord a year but I love it and I plan on putting many miles on it for years to come. I have never owned/ridden a V-Strom (or Wee) but I can't imagine that they have nearly as much soul as the Caponord does.
Both benifit from fitting Ricor fork valves...
Improved my Caponord out of this world
heard good reports regarding Vstrom too...
This was me he was talking about. Pretty dang cool to find this. I still have the Caponord along with 3 other Aprilias (MIlle R, Tuono, and Futura) and still live in Anchorage.
My thing is, I love all bikes. I consider myself a motorcyclist first and foremost. I enjoy trying each and every bike out there on the market. I am fortunate enough to be able to own any bike I want….but I CHOOSE Aprilia. I don't choose them because they are exotic or a pain in the ass to live with or because they are difficult to find parts for (total perpetuated BS), I choose them because they are a top performing and styled bike that are completely undervalued. I think they are the best kept secret in motorcycling out there on the market today. Each of my Aprilias are nearly a decade old, yet each still relevant compared to their modern market peers.
BTW, The amount of disinformation in this thread is really frightening and somewhat sad. I was searching for some comparison info on V-Stroms Vs. Caponords for a friend and came across this thread. To think that a huge contingent of people would pass on this amazing bike based on totally erroneous information (tubed tires, really?oser). People that attempt to come off as experts with 15,000+ posts but have never even ridden the bike, know next to nothing about it except that it is different, yet are all too ready to bad mouth it. Oh well,I must say that ADV rider is much less biased than the V-strom site (ho ho, what a scary bunch they are).:huh
The folks fortunate enough to read through the rhetoric on these fantastic machines and buy in are rarely disappointed. Live with one for a few years and you learn it's few nuances, learn to keep the battery tended, keep the chain adjusted, keep a starter relay on hand, and enjoy the exotic nature of the beast. I've basically only changed oil, tires and brake pads for the last 20,000 miles.
It is always a hit to show up on one. It makes for great conversations and ice breakers. Often, it is the first time even seasoned riders have ever seen one. And while beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, I think my Caponord looks a whole lot better than any other adventure bike out there. Think Armani suit vs. stodgy wool tweed.
I've owned and ridden dozens of bikes over 40 years of riding, two state motocross titles (Florida and Alaska), road raced all across the country and toured a couple hundred thousand miles on all types of bikes. Again, I choose Aprilia!
My Caponord has been a stellar performing bike for the past 5 years since acquiring it second hand, as have all of my Aprilias. AF1 racing out of New Braunfels and Austin, Texas along with Moto International out of Seattle have always been super responsive to any request I've made of them. Each shop sets a standard far above any local dealership here in Anchorage, Alaska. Any part I order arrives in pretty much 2 days and they've even sent things USPS to keep shipping costs on down on non critical items. I've ridden every road in AK, Western Yukon territories and most of Upper BC, A trip down to San Francisco and back with the wife, all on my Caponord. The thing is pretty much bulletproof, comfortable, much more nimble and less susceptible to strong cross winds than any BMW and blazing fast.
The motor is neutered from the factory and once you change the mapping on the ECU, the bike comes to life. CATFISH on the Aprilia forum (AF1) did all the dyno testing with the maps and has figured these bikes out. The factory mapping restricted the motors for two up riding cause they were too wheelie prone in the lower gears. Catfish also found much better fuel economy and a nice gain in HP throughout the power curve (top to bottom) with his mapping. It really woke my bike up, not that it was a slouch before but I'll take more HP, more torque and better fuel economy, for sure. (ha, I posted without reading the whole thread and see that Catfish is already here).
I don't get in here too much due to school time constraints and time spent on other forums but if anyone EVER needs to contact me about these great bikes or the issues of living with them….or hell ….even if you are up in Alaska and need help or info on the region, please PM me or contact me @ Nomadgene@yahoo.com .
And with that, I'm out of here. Too nice of a day to be sitting here typing…..off riding…somewhere.
Excellent post Gene
If I lived in Anchorage and was doing a bunch of riding on Italian bikes instead of a V Strom.........
I'd pretty much make sure I had 5 Italian bikes and the time and funds to maintain them all, plus spread the riding out on each of the 5 bikes.....
If I wanted to cover as many troublefree miles as one V Strom
Ive always DIYed...66k miles and I just gave my Capo its first real valve check and reshim...
Yea, no issues with My Capo. Plan to do the haul road up to Pruhoe Bay at some point.
:eek1 OH MY GOD!!! Respect bro!!!