Welcome new 9x0 owners! Things you need to know about your new bike...

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by Geek, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. Scotty P

    Scotty P Funny Like a Clown

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    Sorry for the hi jack..............

    Penetrating oil ........... Average load to break free

    None ..............................516 pounds
    WD-40 .......................... 238 pounds
    PB Blaster .....................214 pounds
    Liquid Wrench ............... 127 pounds
    Kano Kroil ......................106 pounds
    ATF-Acetone mix............ 53 pounds

    The Automatic Transmission fluid-Acetone mix was a "home brew" of 50/ 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone.

    Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and all now use it with equally good results! Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is nearly as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price...
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  2. gefr

    gefr Life is a trip

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    In 990Adv, the wiring routed towards the key barell comes out of a plastic cover, mounted on the frame at the steering neck. This harness needs to be loose in order to bend freely, without bending to close angles. There have been some incidents of cut cables, due to a wrongly placed tie wrap at the place the cables are coming out of the frame. Bad factory mounting. It would be good to have a look on arranging moving wires around the neck area.
    Cheers.
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  3. Ladukebob

    Ladukebob lost in hood river

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    I'm curious about this statement. This might not apply to me since I have the stock setup on my 2011 990 Dakar. I do have quite a bit of free play in the throttle and thought about simply adjusting the barrel adjuster at the throttle grip. My guess is that the cables stretch a little in the first year of riding. I did the same adjustment on my 650 Strom without issue. Am I reading more into this then I should be? Since this bike is new to me I find myself hesitant at times to start tinkering too much.



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  4. BaronVonDarrin

    BaronVonDarrin Been here awhile

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    I bought this side stand relocator after being super paranoid about the damn thing in the stock location and after seeing my bike fall over twice for the retarded long sidestand.

    KTM 950 / 990 Adventure - 950 Super Enduro Kickstand Relocation Bracket
    http://ktmkickstand.com/default.aspx

    Some notes on this:

    - not in stock location. a little further back on the bike, like a dirt bike. Somehow this also fixed it being too long. bike actually has a bit of lean and is more stable now. two birds one stone.

    - not in stock location at all and in no way attaches to anything even NEAR the freaking crank case.

    - gets in the way of my center stand. if I want to put down my center stand I need to put this down first, then push down the center stand, then put this back up. Not a big deal but it is worthy of note I guess.

    - beefy. thing is steel and heavy. I dont really like adding weight to my bike. though, it doesnt feel like you can break it with a bunker buster.

    - has a harness with it to extend the kickstand safety switch instead of blocking it off or whatever. seems to be juuuust long enough though. So maybe I might find out how to block that off

    conclusion: I think I like it.
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  5. BaronVonDarrin

    BaronVonDarrin Been here awhile

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    got a link to something with pictures?
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  6. stevodadevo

    stevodadevo What happened?

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    Your shorting out, back firing KTM STILL ran circles around those BMW guys and their lattes! Ha! I know, I was there!
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  7. gouralnik

    gouralnik Been here awhile

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    I read a lot of threads and try to do most of the maintenance work myself. I think for beginners it might be extremely helpful to know the basic product/brand info on the easy cleaning, greasing, lubricating etc. procedures. I sometimes find myself stuck in the very basic steps due to lack of knowledge what product to use.

    From different threads it seems that a lot of people are using very different products - what I'm trying to achieve here is to summarize the basic products that perform well for the average rider. Products that everyone should have in the shed to be able to perform basic maintenance tasks outlined below.

    What brands / products do you use when:

    1. Cleaning and greasing the front / rear brake calipers
    2. Cleaning spokes, rims and brake discs
    3. Cleaning and greasing sidestand / centrestand
    4. Cleaning and greasing the wheel / steering head bearings
    5. Cleaning and lubricating chain
    6. Do you apply any protective aluminium clear coat finish after cleaning your swingarm?
    7. Do you apply any protective finish after washing and polishing the tanks / panels?
    8. What products do you use to protect / seal electrical connections/ports?
    9. What anti-seize do you use?
    10. What do you use to unlock some bolts/nuts?

    Feel free to add as you go - I think it will be of very valuable information to be able to get the right product that works the first time and use it for basic maintenance. THANK YOU. :freaky
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  8. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    For all the above I prefer only the purest of rocky mountain river/stream/creek water (preferably with the throttle wide open and the front wheel in the air) :ricky

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    ...but I also use this technique:
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    ...sorry couldn't resist :D
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  9. Weldit

    Weldit Been here awhile

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    took some slack out of mine - one of the first things I did - 2011 dakar edition
    what is the worst thing that can happen ? - you have to loosen it off a tad - big deal
    I hate having a ton of free play in throttle - not acceptable to me
    no issue for me - just somebody being PARANOID - in my opinion
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  10. Katoom119

    Katoom119 Mmmm....Orange Kool-aid

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    Note: everything is generic or the cheapest crap at the local auto store unless otherwise stated.

    1. Brake cleaner but I haven't torn mine apart yet. Just exterior stuff.
    2. Spokes and rims: Honda polish or any kind of spray can wax. Discs: aforementioned brake cleaner
    3. Whatever oil I happen to grab first. Could be BreakFree that I use on my guns, could be TriFlow I use on my bicycles.
    4. Haven't done this on the big bike but on my dirt bikes it was plain old axle grease.
    5. Motul Chain Cleaner, a nifty chain cleaning brush from Cycle Gear, and to lube whatever dry lube I happened to find on sale.
    6. Nope. Depending on whats on there it might get hit with Motul Chain Cleaner or Honda Polish.
    7. Nope. Used to wipe them down with Honda Polish but now with the Safari Tanks I say screw it.
    8. Dielectric grease and waterproof spade connectors (the ones with the heat shrink) when applicable
    9. The silver kind from Autozone. It's worked for the last 10,000 miles.
    10. Ahh, the important one. Antiseize as a preventative, then I use small wrench, bigger wrench, even bigger wrench, then cuss while getting a breaker bar to attach to the even bigger wrench (I like Archimedes). If it's still not come loose then I skip the PB Blaster and go straight to the heat gun. If it's still not loose then I start plugging in tools, like grinders. I've only had to do that once though, on a chain adjuster bolt that had seized.

    I don't think any one brand is more important than another. These bikes don't care. Pretty much everything works the same for these applications.
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  11. moto-treks

    moto-treks Back Home

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    You just need to get TuneECU and hook it up to your bike. It has an "Adjusting the throttle cable" mode that will retract the stepper motor correctly so that you can set the proper throttle slack.
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  12. gefr

    gefr Life is a trip

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    stating the best antiseize was a mixture of aceton+ATF.
    Good to know.
    Cheers.
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  13. Ladukebob

    Ladukebob lost in hood river

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    The manual says it's ok to run one tank of regular fuel through as long as you unplug it under the seat. But what do you guys do when you're out somewhere and it's going to be several tanks on regular fuel?

    Would something like 104+ be ok to use?
    http://www.amazon.com/104-Regular-Octane-Boost-16/dp/B000LNUIUI

    One of my favorite places in Oregon is heading out to the Alvord Desert. It's way out in the middle of no where, with one gas station that only sells regular fuel. With the Vstrom it was never an issue, but now I'm wondering how to handle this.
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  14. stevodadevo

    stevodadevo What happened?

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    I just ran several tank fulls of Pemex Magna through mine with no issues. I never touched the plug. I'm sure the Pemex is lower octane than what you're getting in Oregon.
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  15. BaronVonDarrin

    BaronVonDarrin Been here awhile

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    popular tire combos and their application would be much appreciated.
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  16. wpbarlow

    wpbarlow Long timer

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    Try a little harder-- post 6 of this thread.
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  17. BaronVonDarrin

    BaronVonDarrin Been here awhile

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    oops
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  18. Tooth

    Tooth State of Jefferson

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    A serious thanks to GEEK

    I bought my 990 from a friend with over 16K on it.....I have read this forum an I worry constantly about the obvious issues and worry even more that I have no advanced mechanical abilities. You guys who own these bikes seem to be very accomplished mechanics...I feel way over my head. I did not come from a dirtbike background so even wrenching on my sons Yamaha 125 is an adventure.

    Hey ...whats the worse that can happen....? I throw the bike and all the parts in the truck and take to a dealer......

    A thread like this settles me down...thanks Geek
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  19. Narsisco Lopez

    Narsisco Lopez Addlepated

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    Fixed! :lol3
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  20. Hobbes950

    Hobbes950 Darth Kitten

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    Yeah, thanks to EVERYONE! Wasn't really a conscious decision, but I think maybe subliminally I chose the KTM over the BMW in part by comparing the OC to the Beemer forum. There is so much more pertinent information here. It has been an astounding help to have the Halls of Wisdom, with all its knowledge.
    When I go to the GS forum I find this-
    "I'm new to the GS world and having a blast. I have a question for yall. When I put my GS on the center stand, do I leave the side stand down or put the sidestand up?"
    :lol3