Western/Central PA Recon--local help, is there snow?

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  1. MoBill

    MoBill Smiles when says dat

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    Good afternoon folks, looking for a little help in Central and Western PA to see if there's any local knowledge out there about a route I'm going to recon for a fellow ADVer and perhaps follow on riders who'll want to enjoy the area. :D

    I'm concerned that the central elevations on the route below, just SW of Black Moshannon will be snow covered still the weekend of 3/29-31 and the recon will be a bust. They are up around 2500 feet... do any of you know if those areas will be open that soon?

    The rest of the route is considerably lower except the eastern end of the north loop with elevations up to 2000 feet there.

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    Thoughts please?
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  2. haystack

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    What bike will you be riding?
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  3. haystack

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    Are you staying at hotel/motel or camping?
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  4. MoBill

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    I'll hotel it if I'm solo...gives time to stop and have a regular meal--mebbe a beer :evil

    I'd camp if I had company....all the stuff is out and I'm due.

    Wanna come? You'd be very welcome--we do some good ridin'

    And I'm taking the WR--best to recon with that--plus I can put it on the back of my truck. I have a National Guard armory I called and will stage out of.

    I'm looking to ride most of the route Friday and Saturday--short piece on Sunday morning and then off to Bastian, VA to see Lady Draco on my way to TDY at Fort Pickett.
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  5. haystack

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    Hmmm!:hmmmmm

    Checking my schedule.


    My dad's family is from Oil City, I put out a call for local weather input.

    I will get back to you.:deal How much of this route is dirt?
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  6. mabuz

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    Here's some current reports for you:


    I live southwest of Butler, we currently have about a half inch of snow in the yard as of this morning, with more supposed to be on the way...probably won't be substantial.

    My parents live in Oil City, and I just spoke with my mom this morning, she says about 6" on the ground, and at least 4"-5" more expected by the end of the day today. Probably even more over the weekend.

    Friend of mine lives in Bellefonte, PA, works in State College, he says they currently have about an inch on the ground there.
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  7. MoBill

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    "All of it" :-D I think most of it....it's a great ride, talking to Scott, the author.

    There were some bridges out--and some might be seasonally closed.
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    Thanks...so, my take away is it's your opinion that intermittantly traversed roads in the hills are likely to still be snow/ice covered?

    Many thanks.
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  9. mabuz

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    Probably a good guess that there would be some snow covered dirt roads presently. We really haven't been getting a whole lot of accumulation near the Butler area for the past couple of weeks though.

    It seems that from I80 and north is where we usually get the most snow in this part of the state, so when you're getting close to the I80 corridor, you might encounter a little more snow on the ground.

    I'm really surprised that my friend in the State College area only has around an inch though, being in the higher elevations.
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  10. MoBill

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    OK....I think it's worth a try--this is when the calendar is open. I'm on a WR250R, it's OK in an inch of snow--but nothing but studs work on ice IMO...so if the roads are hard packed snow it's bad.

    The next question, is are a lot of the state park routes closed?
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  11. mabuz

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    I can't speak for all of the parks you may have on your route, but I don't recall any of the state park roads really being closed seasonally.

    Growing up we always used to visit a local state park year round, and where I live now there are two that I go to semi-frequently throughout the year, none of them ever had a "through way" road closed down. You may see some access roads to isolated beaches or picnic areas gated off within the parks, but the main roads that pass through the parks are typically open from my experiences.

    Another thing that I thought I'd mention is some of the park roads will not have winter maintenance done to them, but again, the snow hasn't been real bad on this side of the state for a good while now, so I don't think there would be too many issues you'd encounter, unless you were heading north of I80, so you should be good.
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  12. haystack

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    YoBill,
    My kin in Oil City says that they have 6 inches of snow on the ground
    and most of the secondary roads are slushy and messy.:vardy

    I would love to proof this route with you, however next weekend is Easter and I plan on spending the day with my family. Keep me posted, if I can I will ride with you on the next one!:ricky
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  13. MoBill

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    Great intel!

    Thanks Shawn, I'm thinking maybe this one gets done with the Xterra :D
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  14. madmaximum

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    Bill, I'm 15 miles from black moshannon. The state forests roads are packed snow. Looking at your map I'm guessing you are traveling rt 504 thru that area. It will most likely have a ton of loose gravel, maybe some snow. Casanova road out of the park will be very questionable. Not as well maintained, with shaded tight turns in places.

    I can probably have a look for you this weekend and post some pics.

    BTW, nice park. Our favorite campground.
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  15. snowman318

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    I'm alittle ne from your route. Camp is 1700 ft, renovo
    Yesterday
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    Dirt roads also look like this.
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    Thank you fellas. Packed snow that doesnt crunch down when ya ride it is tough...but I'd do it if you think there's some purchase.

    I think I know enough to make a decision, but I'll look for those pix Max. My opportunities later are iffy. I know it'll.be at the limits of comforts for multi day exposure. Today was still rough here at zero elevation.

    Rough, but not bad. Just brisk....I like this. Anyway...if you find its not sheer then I'l.lean toward yes.

    Thanks again for the info. I'm much obliged
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  17. MoBill

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    Laughing since it's snowing today--still holding out hope that it could be loose and slushy by Saturday--

    Any additional information?

    Mabuz, Max, Snowman--very much obliged to all of you. Thanks.

    And Shawn--roger dodger--wish we could ride--but the season is young :D
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  18. mabuz

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    We got about 3"-4" of heavy wet snow Sunday night through Monday morning here, near the Butler area. Although temps are set to be above freezing during the day, they're still calling for flurries off and on until Thursday here.

    I can try to get an update from the family up north for you.

    Good news is Friday and Saturday here (Bulter-ish) are supposed to get into the mid 40s...Sunday and Monday are supposed to hit 50+, but we all know how the forecast can change from day to day.
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    Good stuff. The forest roads' condition is my primary concern. I'm packed and ready. Thank you very much
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  20. madmaximum

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    Oops, I forgot! Sorry Bill.
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