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Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by moosemeat, Apr 19, 2011.
I was trying very hard to be polite
Not invested at all, just appears like a bunch of kids on the playground making fun of another kid.
Yall have fun with it.
I'd buy that.
But not this bike.
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$6900.00 + 600 more on the way from MAX and the new cluster from alpineride ($500) + $200 and change to get a new "R" title here in FLORIDA. Unless I drive up to Maryland to get it done. Since the origional Maryland title says"less than 75% total damage" that would allow me to get a new - non "R" title I believe.
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I wasn't 100% sure that he had the resources to finish it but this is where I jumped off.
I lost any respect him after that.
You should have bought a Harley to rebuild. They like pretty bike that run like shit.
See what I mean ... everybody seems to have a grudge.
When can we expect to see pictures of a running bike?:huh
This thread is getting REALLY OLD and my patience is wearing thin.
who really cares?
three months with no posts from him and you guys are still hanging on ... weird.
The mods should delete the thread just to leave everyone hanging
You're still here, why not everybody else? All that's different is the perspective one adopts. If one thinks driving to another state to get a clear title on a burned up bike will go unnoticed or uncommented upon, and that all that matters is if the machine comes out pretty, that's. fine. Begrudging those who believe that's unethical or calling them out on that score will naturally result in controversy. I was rooting for Moosemeat until that reveal; hadn't even posted to the thread. After that, he was open game for a pile-on.
But I suspect you are right; this thread is about cooked and whatever happens to the HP2, Moose's ethics have been revealed.
I think that when you talk a big game, and then start the trash talk, people tend to be more apt to hold your feet to the fire and expect you to make good on your own crap. I suppose that juvenile behavior begets juvenile treatment. I've seen TONS of project threads, and in most all of them, people are supportive, helpful, and understanding when and if things don't go as planned. But then again, in most all of those threads the OPers tends to act more like an adult seeking help rather than a child tooting their own horns and talking crap. It's more the demeanor of the OP than anything that makes some, myself included, sorta want to see him at least eat a little crow. If that makes us childish, then so be it.
With that said, in reality, I do hope that he is eventually successful at getting this bike back on the road. But with the money and time that he has invested, and the lengthy delay in getting it completed, I don't think it was quite as quick and easy of a restoration as he originally believed. I still say that anyone with experience with restoring things of questionable function knows to start getting it mechanically sound first, and THEN make it pretty. Then again since he has chosen this as his vocation, and judging from his demeanor I'm guessing he's young and inexperienced, perhaps this has served as a valuable lesson for him at the very least.
Good luck to moosemeat with this and future projects.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...My buddy whose bike that is in the picture (burned out F650GS) just got the police report after a few months and the insurance authorized the payout to him! Yippeee! Not really, at least not yet. Before they will cut him a check, he has to de-register the bike here and that means he merely has to fill out some forms and hand over the plate.
That would be the plate that melted in the fire.
That would be the plate that who the fck knows where it is and whether it might have fallen off the salvage truck, been forgotten in the impound yard, etc...
He is also just getting over two separate bouts of dengue fever, the second of which damn near took him out for good.
If it wasn't for bad luck...:eek1
Now, back to the thread.
IMHO the dogpile has turned him off. Why bother now? At this point nothing he posts will make some of these guys happy.
Can he not get a new plate from the DMV. Saying the other was destroyed, or lost. Then turn in the new plate..
A video of him wheelying off in to the sunset would shut a few up though :)
Me, I'm just curious to see the finished product and (if he cares to share) a final list of what was done and what it cost. I really don't give a f**k about the people who are trying to stroke their own egos by criticizing someone else's efforts and I don't give a f**k about how original it looks.
Probably a topic for a different thread but I don't see what's the big deal about the title. There are plenty of vehicles going around (bikes especially) in really shitty condition but with perfectly good titles. There are also more than a few with salvage titles that seem to be just about perfect. In this case, if it meets the rules and he wants to maximize the value, it makes sense. If he then failed to tell the story to a potential buyer, that might be a different issue - but it would still obviously be a very heavily modified, reworked bike and unless there was a serious hidden flaw (unlikely from what I've seen so far) it shouldn't make much difference at the end of the day.
58,000 views, lots of posts, NO PICTURES of bike, 18 months.
No response from the OP for more than 3 months?
Time for the MODs to NUKE this thread.
Ever see what the DMV looks like and how it functions in Veracruz?:eek1
It'll get sorted out with time and money. He has lots of one but not
so much of the other! Like most of us this time of year!
You missed the pics. They are there, and they are awesome.
Read today for the first time, wow...........
This is about the most balanced reply yet.
If anyone has the patience to re-read the thread, a young optimist bought a burned up exotic bike on the cheap. That's where I'm skeptical from the get-go. Ambitious for sure, maybe something worth resurrecting. But a bike with that many specialized alloys, not to mention the temper of the frame itself will be affected. I didn't say possibly, I said will be. And we all know that heat distorts metal, so what about the alignment of the frame (the most important structure on a bike)? I'd think safety would be an initial concern.
When 'details' like this were brought up in conversation, the OP responded with emoticons flipping off well-respected members of the BMW community. Not to mention dealers themselves.
When it was also evident that the OP was in training at MMI, a huge hole in logic opened up. The simple fact that you get things running, mechanically and structurally sound first before dolling up a bike with carbon fiber and powdercoat. I don't know how to connect an MMI grad to a bike like this and not equate that to a complete fail.
Last, there's that small detail about a possible rebuild title which in fact isn't small at all.
Some could call it a pile on, but it was pretty clear early on this was a visual exercise (which is fine), but I think we were all hoping for a good rebuild with thought behind it. It would have been fantastic to see this bike be better than an HPN, using skills and technology gained from programs at MMI or similar shops. (Gusseting, billet details, custom software or suspension setup)
I guess that was what I was hoping for. I know any rebuild or new construction doesn't happen overnight, so maybe there's some possibility for a 'Phoenix'. Let's hope for that. I just can't imagine the amount of scraping molten brittle plastic out of threads on this bike.