what are my choices

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  1. sailer

    sailer trained Cirus Bear

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    need as much feed back on this as possible

    want to get a sidecar hack
    I do own a few other bikes and have owned bikes my whole life.
    she does not like speed and will not get on anything that even looks like a dirt bike.
    so i thought a sidecar with a two up seat on the bike would fit the bill.
    it is really for the dog, but I am stick with 1st story

    I do not plan on touring on this bike or even putting that many miles on it.
    rides with her to local pub and BBQs, (she will not go on rides for more then 10 miles)
    Taking dog to lake, errands to hareware store.

    what are my choices.
    for every one that says ural are bad, same amount of people love them
    do they still make Royal Enfields ?
    what other makes are out there that has complete factory package?

    if I want to put one togather what are my choice of bikes ?
    which bike have frames that you can mount a side car to?

    who put bikes togather in the Northeast?

    if I do buy a rig that was home or shop mounted, what do I look for?

    do not need 2wd, do like the the look of Urals or that style

    where is a place to look

    ebay, cycle trader do have much

    what is out there
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  2. Strong Bad

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    My first sidecar was a 2007 Ural Tourist. Although not as popular as the hardcore die-hard 2 wheel drive Urals, the Tourist is 1 wheel drive and I found it to be a great economical way to get into the world of sidecars. Look around for a nice 2007 or newer Ural Tourist.
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  3. sailer

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    you are the 4th person that said that 2007 was the magic year.

    2007 or newer
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  4. mustaphapint

    mustaphapint Adventurer

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    Whatever you go for if you are trying to get your other half on side I suggest you make sure she tries getting in and out of it before buying, especially if it's only for short trips. If she has to be shoe-horned in and helped out it won't go down very well.
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  5. Strong Bad

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    By the time the 07's came out much of the problem areas had been addressed. Like good Japanese carbs, Japanese alternator, along with changes in the tranny, and valve train. I've seen lists around here of what was new on all the different years, but basically the newer the better, but yeah, no older than 07.

    The Ural tub is pretty easy to get in and out of and has lots of room.
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  6. AlanCT

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    As time marches on, the "magic year" keeps advancing, due to the improvements and updates. It used to be '05.
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  7. val. h.

    val. h. On the wrong planet

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    This might have some relevence to your questions http://www.dynabeads.co.uk/test.php I just saw it on another thread (havent even whatched the video myself yet) but the first couple of paragraphs could give you an answer to at least one of your questions.

    Re: Royal Enfields. Yes they still make them. Still as under powered as ever. especially when hooked up to the Watsonian sidecars. You could try a Triumph T100 Boneville with a Watsonian. What kind of budget are you thinking of?



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  8. sailer

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    she will be on back, why I want a two up seat on bike, side-car is for super mutt.

    she might get into side car and she is thin so should work, but a very good piont
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  9. sailer

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    a triumph T100 would fit in well with rest of sable. a good friend of mine is a big trimph guy.

    that is great news that the frame of a T100 will work with a side car, any year of the T100 better then others.

    budget is between $5k - $7k but like all budgets it might need to grow
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  10. oppozit

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    Take a sidecar course first. Otherwise you will scare your wife and you shitless and ruin the entire idea. For what your "currently" proposing almost any sidecar would work. A 1994 Ural Tourist would fit the bill at a very small price. Once you go down the dark road of three wheels........
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  11. windmill

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    The biggest question is what's your budget?
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  12. sailer

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    budget is between $5k - $7k but like all budgets it might need to grow
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  13. MotoJ

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    That's a dangerous arrangement, unless your dog outweighs yer ol' lady by a good bit.
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  14. oppozit

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    It's only a dangerous arrangement IF you don't know how to ride. Thousands of riders do it daily in Russia. Yes it puts the weight outside the "stability triangle" but a GOOD rider should be able to cope with that.
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  15. AlanCT

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    That puts you right in easy range of an '05 or '06. Those years do have the most crucial improvements, even if they lack some of the extra stuff of later years.
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  16. MotoJ

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    Well, being his first hack maybe he should take it slow, before he works up to the wife on the back, chickens, goats, and whatever else people load rigs up with. Driving in Mass is no picnic, either.
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  17. usgser

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    If you're new to piloting a hack I strongly suggest you get proficient at driving it w/o a passender long before you add a passenger to the bike with an empty chair. Carrying a passenger on the back of the bike with a light side car is not not the way to impress your lady. Keep the weight off the bike and in the sidecar. Hospitals are very unromantic.
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  18. bokad

    bokad Difficult Child

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    Since you're just planning short distance rides around town, almost any bike would do and it comes down to looks, price, and maintenance.

    Take a look at the main sidecar photo thread at the top of the forum to see what kind of look grabs your fancy. Thousands of pics there.

    I'm one of those that say Urals are bad. But, it is easy to buy and already put together and there's lots around, so if you have the time, space, tools, knowledge, and patience for the Ural experience then it may be a good fit.

    Mounting a Ural chair (lots available and reasonable price) to another bike is also economical and frequently done. You can mount it to a Honda Shado or Triumph Bonneville or just about anything else.

    This guy (http://cozzisidebysidecycles.com/) makes nice new Bonnievilles with Cozy sidecars. They look great. The Cozy is a smaller chair but large enough for short trips. Price is $10-12k but that is with a new bike. Cheaper with used bike.

    You should do some reading (and bike for sale looking) here as well:
    http://www.sidecar.com/mbbs22/category-view.asp
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  19. windmill

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    For your budget your best bet is probably a RTR used rig.
    A Ural would definitely fit your desires, but no reason to limit your options, you never know what may pop up locally on ebay or craigslist. Your budget is a bit low to have a rig built, but would be plenty to build your own if you get lucky and find a decent used tub.

    Like others have said, sidecar training is a real good idea.
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  20. sailer

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    I have a friend who races sidecars and will get some riding tips from him, before taking the entire family out for a spin

    really like the triumph Bonneville for a bike choice. are there better years that work well then other as far as mounting a hack , will a 2004 T100 work

    What tubs work best with the T100

    Watsonian
    Ural
    RTR

    the cozzi, are they cozzi tubs or do they use a tub made by some one else ?



    are there any that better then others
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