What are You Using for Bike to Bike Communication

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Sir Dave, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Sir Dave

    Sir Dave Big Dave

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    Ok...cut to the chase...Been riding a LONG time. Current bike is 08 GSA. Use bluetooth. Love not being connected to the bike...and for those very very seldom times I am ejected it is REALLY nice not being connected. I am currently running J&M bluetooth (don't hate me) ...bud is running Camos...(older version). What I want most is to be able to QUICKLY let my bud know when something negative (or positive) is happening. I mean like a dog on the right coming out, tire in the lane...pot hole, deep sand, naked woman with a free beer sign....looking for a bluetooth system which affords the ability to get an intercom call out NOW...and not having to wait for intercom connection to occur...a delay in signal...a delay in the intercom function on the most common bluetooth units being used today. (F5, SMH10 etc..). If you have a setup that works like I have described herein I would be very interested in learning what you use and how you use it!!!!
    Thanks in advance.
    Ride Safe,
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  2. tree18is

    tree18is n00b

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    Some of these new Motorola walkie talkie's have a "hands free" communication option.

    IM wondering if the Mic would pick up and transmit the wind noise the whole time.
    Also if I could get a grip switch that allowed Push to talk would be nice too.

    Just thinking about a little cheaper option to the chatterbox and besides, in the end if it didn't work you could always use the walkie's in another way.
    anyone else have experience with a walkie based communication method?
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  3. Nacho911

    Nacho911 Been here awhile

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    BT Interphone. Cheap and works awesome.:clap
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  4. MudratinOz

    MudratinOz Nomadic motorcyle traveller

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    Sena SMH-10 bluetooth unit, Sena SR-10 two way adapter, FDC 5 watt radio, PTT mounted on the left hand grip.

    Heaps more range than Bluetooth and works regardless of what radio or bluetooth system others I want to talk too are using.
    And I can contact emergency services if the need arrises
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  5. bomber60015

    bomber60015 Anatomically Correct

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    Rude gestures.

    My primary riding partner (my wife) and I discuss bike 2 bike commo at least three times a year . . . .we've always asked the question "have we missed anything important due to the lack of voice commo." So far, the answer is no.

    Add to that, visit any motorcycle forum, and some of the longest threads seem to be involving complex commo lashups on bikes that don't quite meet the rider's requirements . . . . . . .

    But I hope you find something that works for you!
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  6. tree18is

    tree18is n00b

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    With the blue tooth is the communication instant? And you need service to huh?
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  7. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    If your interested in a radio solution here's the info and links to order.

    Here it is for about 50 bucks.

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    And the headset for 18 bucks on ebay

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    Another better quality option for 60 Bucks (MC-753)

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    If you already have a Bluetooth headset you can connect the radio to it via Bluetooth with this adapter.
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    It goes for 125 bucks. Its a push to talk button you mount and it bluetooths to the radio. So no wires and you get the added benefit of your Bluetooth headsets noise filter which cleans up your comms. This set up is going to work over a much larger distance than bike to bike bluetooth options. Plus allows you to work with vehicles etc. The radio also works with those GMRS radios you can get at department stores.
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  8. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    Hand signals.
    :D

    You only really need "pull over, we need to talk" sorted out before you set off.

    In all seriousness though, you can establish quite complex communication that can be done with one hand whilst still riding and is visible from the bike behind you.

    I can communicate:
    Look out, police/speed trap.
    Look out, something on the road.
    Slow down.
    Wow, look at that.
    Shall we go down that road/trail?
    I want to stop for food.
    I want to stop for fuel.
    Turnaround.
    I'm leaving/going home.
    You, turn off/leave here.
    Pull over when you get a chance.
    Stop immediately.
    Some off your luggage fell off/is loose or something fell off your bike.
    Film this.
    Yes.
    No.
    Idiot/Tosser/you have displeased me.
    Pass me.
    Speed up.
    Cancel you indicator/your indicators aren't working/you're not indicating.

    I also have a signal for "let me pass" (from behind the rider) which allows me to get in front to then communicate (using the above) to the rider in front. I can then watch my mirrors for their response.

    That covers most bases for things that need to be said whilst riding.
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  9. Dagwood_55

    Dagwood_55 Long timer

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    +100 on this set up. I've tried most everything and this works best us. Only we use 2 meter ham radios with 5/8 wave mobile antennas for even more range. Hard to beat.
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  10. max384

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    I bought the Scala Q2 system a couple of weeks ago. So far, I have been wholly dissatisfied with it. The automatic sound level adjuster doesn't work for shit. Even on the loudest setting, I can't hear anything intelligibly going faster than about 50mph without plugs. With plugs, I pretty much can almost never hear anything clearly. I'm at the point where I think that I either got a dud and need to contact the warranty department... Or just get rid of it and forget about bluetooth commo until it gets better.
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  11. MudratinOz

    MudratinOz Nomadic motorcyle traveller

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    A few pics of my set up, which I'm basically happy with atm

    So what I have now looks a bit like this

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    SR-10 two way adapter and FDC FD45a 5w 80 channel radio [​IMG]

    PTT mounted above left hand grip
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    I'm not impressed with the amount of wind noise I transmit above 90 klm, so plan to look into a throat mic when funds/time permit
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  12. Wlfman

    Wlfman Long timer

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    Not a dud, more like a POS. I have the same effin issues and Scala is no help at all. I've been using Scala products since 2005. I will never buy another of their products due to SH!TTY customer service over this POS product
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  13. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    Great work that's the basic idea i have except your set up cost more. Bluetooth headset, radio and Bluetooth adapter to connect the radio to the headset. Is the PTT button an accessory to the Sena? Also can you tell use more on your antennae setup?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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  14. GSAragazzi

    GSAragazzi Long timer

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    Guess I should consider myself lucky bc mine works great. Took me some time finding out the perfect placement of the speakers (otherwise its useless bc sound is very faint) but finding the sweet spot makes it pretty loud and taking calls etc = no problem. Yet to try it with a GPS but works great with my iPhone and Mapquest turn by turn promps.
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  15. MudratinOz

    MudratinOz Nomadic motorcyle traveller

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    Yes PTT comes with the two way adapter (SR-10)

    some info on the antenna

    "A 3dB gain flexible dipole tuned for 477Mhz UHF CB.

    This antenna has a chromed brass ferrule which fits a standard S)-239 type base.

    The antenna will fit our SO-239 base and lead assembly or will fit imported SO-239 bases.


    When used with a suitable adaptor it will fit directly on a handheld radio and will significantly improve range performance."
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  16. Disco Stu

    Disco Stu I'm Barry F'n Gibb!!

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    my wife and i said the same thing. this year i broke down and bought the Sena smh-10 dual pack. we were on a 2 week motorcycle trip and while we wouldn't have missed anything without the units, i do say that the units added to the trip. it was nice to comment about things that we were seeing, or just to talk.
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  17. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    Its when you ride in a group where bike comms really adds to the ride and organization. last month a group of us did the Southern Sierra Adventure Route and relaly enjoyed the group comms and the communication with the 2 4X4's that accompanied us. Next summer we are doing the COBDR and comms will be a nessesity.
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  18. FakeName

    FakeName Wile E Coyote SuperGenius

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  19. Oil-Burner

    Oil-Burner Ssssssssmokin

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    Great setup! and the SR-10 allowed me to connect my non-bluetooth Garmin too.
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  20. Xcountry-Rider

    Xcountry-Rider Banned

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    That setup is populate with the SDAR folks in San Diego but its not very flexible to communicate with others that don't have the same setup. The yaesu is a nice radio but its a single band 136-174Mhz which of course is ham license restricted. What you want is a radio that can talk with the ham users and others on GMRS radios. The BaoFeng UV-5R is 50 bucks which is like 1/5 the price of the Yaesu the SDAR guys are using and its dual band 136-174 / 400-479.995 MHz. Which means it can communicate with the Ham users like the Yaesu users and the non ham "walkie talkies" like the poplular GMRS radios. So you can spend a lot more on a Yaesu but your not really going to get more.
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