What bike do you want today?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by fivehitsweak, Jun 3, 2010.

  1. Mulewright

    Mulewright Old Fart/Journeyman

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    I will never buy a.b.s. bikes without the option of dis abeling the "Nanny" and would prefer not to have well intentioned people / manufactureres / government burocrats make choices for me...
    Go down a dirt or gravel road and try to stop with them activated....
    IF you live thru the experience, you have qualified to speak to me on the subject..... :gyro:
    AND I resent whoever makes the call, however well intentioned, to ram it down my gullet like a full blown "Safety Nazi"from D.C. that's out to "Help Me".
    No thanks!!!
    "And That's all I have to say about it."... F.G. quote.
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  2. Cos

    Cos Re-Greekified

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    We've butted heads on this before and we'll keep doing it. I call bull on that.

    MOST people where?

    Look at all the threads about bikes that go to the US and all the people that say that they won't buy one without ABS.

    And i don't know about the States but bikes wthout ABS languish on sales floors here exactly because of that.

    Mind you that both my Triumphs are sans ABS. I'm just pointing out that consumers have bought the ABS concept on bikes. Especially the newer generation of riders.
  3. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    They just redid the Z750 (made it 800cc), but the weight is anything but
    "down, way down".

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  4. gentlemanjim

    gentlemanjim Been here awhile

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    Randy - Right On! I just bought a first gen SV and put a viper pipe with DC killer on it and it just sounds so very sweet. Love it. I had a Ducati Montster 904 with Arrow pipes and the SV comes closest to sound perfect. VTwins make all the right mechanical noises even Virago's sound good. Some parrallel twins sound good Triumph's old Yamaha XS650's, but the new gen Kawasaki just sound like big single blat blat sort of.
  5. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    +1

    I never liked the sound of my 650R, maybe only up to around 4000.
    It still sounds better then the F800 BMW IMHO.

    The parallel twin in the Honda NC700 series sounds like a v-twin.
  6. Randy

    Randy Long timer

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    Never heard the NC700, but yeah, parallel twins CAN be made to sound pretty good. Triumph did just that with their Scrambler when they put in a 270* crank.

    Gotta admit, this bike sounds pretty sweet!

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    :D


    But, most others just sound too blatty to me...


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  7. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Yeah, the NC 700 also got the 270 crank..
  8. Tim_Tom

    Tim_Tom Been here awhile

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    Another awesome bike that we don't get in the US.... Which doesn't surprise me considering how 'well' the FZ8 is doing here... US sport riders generally want the fully faired real deal. Those that don't buy Monsters, Speed Triples, Tuenos, or some other naked Euro bike. The bigger bore nude Japanese don't do nearly as well. The Z1000 pretty much proves that. I see ten ZX10R's for each Z1000 on the roads.

    Shame because I would love a GSR750.

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  9. Randy

    Randy Long timer

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    Sweet looking bike! In fact, that's the first Suzuki I've said that about it quite a few years. Now, if Suzuki could just package the SV650 v-twin, or better yet,a 750 version, in it instead of that Gladious thing, or whatever it's called now.....


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  10. PhilB

    PhilB Long timer

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    One of the reasons manufacturers have been reluctant to sell bikes with ABS in the U.S. is our litigiousness, and idiotic liability laws. The concern has been that if they mass-market bikes with ABS, sooner or later some idiot is going to crash, and sue the bike maker because the ABS didn't prevent the crash.

    PhilB
  11. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    The "idiots" are actually more likely to blame ABS for crashing, not
    blame it for not helping them not to crash.

    (And I'm sure 20 people who never had ABS on a bike will jump on this..)
  12. PhilB

    PhilB Long timer

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    Either way, they will file a suit and the manufacturer will have to spend more money to defend themselves than the ABS makes in profits.

    PhilB
  13. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    +1
  14. cls

    cls Long timer

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    Wow, a lot of activity in a hurry. Nice!

    -Yep, Kawi has an 800 available. Furthermore, they have the ability to make it, if they wish.
    -The Z800 is waaaaay heavy.
    -More low-mid power is my specialty. I'd like it from a bigger bore engine than a 650 (Though I love my Versys. My other bikes have it done very nicely but they're heavy. I don't like heavy. Heavy is my new enemy. Lighter is better.).
    -I don't do ABS if I can help it. If I can't help it, I may concede for a particular bike but that hasn't happened, yet. Great idea and safer, I have no doubt. Just not my 'druthers, as of yet.
    -The price of the bike is not a big deal to me. I go through way too many of them and I love these things. If I can find what I want that doesn't require me (Or make me want to) have so many bikes at once, I'd still come out way ahead.
    -You have to be really careful when you start telling other people what they should/shouldn't do or think. It's a slippery slope...

    All good fun, gentlemen. I love to play. Bring on the high end Versys 800, done right. By my definition, of course.
  15. D.T.

    D.T. Difficult but useful

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    Yep, that GSR 750 Suzuki is sweet! Just make it a V-twin instead! That is what the gladiass should have been.
  16. single

    single Been here awhile

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    While that may be a small reason I don't think it registers in company boardrooms. After all there is a long history of ABS applications in cars and it presumably has a well fortified litigious protection history.

    The main reason more bikes don't have ABS is frankly most riders in the US don't want it (or don't want to pay for it). It's an extremely price sensitive market, and just a glance at the used market for motorcycles with ABS versus without for bikes offered with both will tell you the story.

    The cynical side of me would also add that in order to have the presence of mind to actually seek out a bike with ABS in the first place requires a sensibility among the motorcycle buying demographic that I believe just doesn't exist in this country obsessed with sport bikes and harleys.
  17. dmac57

    dmac57 Long timer

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    Okay, let's step over the dead horse and get back to bikes we want. Methinks discussion of ABS, liability, helmets, oil, and the like can be diverted to other forums/threads.

    I dig the GSR-750.
  18. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    +1 too.
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    Cortez BAZINGA!

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  20. Tom-Nor

    Tom-Nor Wannabe Adventurer

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    About ABS, in Europe its soon not possible to buy a motorbike without ABS, and i think thats just posetiv.

    This is the bike that i want today,tomorrow and the day after, comes with ABS as standard :D
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