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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by fivehitsweak, Jun 3, 2010.
Nice pic, Pete.
I'm building a naked SV1000 (A.K.A. SV1000 Classic) off a wrecked 2006 SV1000S. There are so many differences between both bikes that I don't understand what the guys at Suzuki were thinking. It has been a ridiculously expensive project because of that, didn't realize how bad it would be until I was deep into it.
Not sure why, haven't even had a beer yet, but kind of cool bike. Suzuki RV 90, like a street legal, 2 stroke Big Wheel!
Luckily, I still want the bike I have (just got in Jan.)...
I'm in FZ6 mood today.
Stop riding it to bars.
In over 35 years of riding, I can't say that I've ever ridden a bike to a bar... By "bar hopper" I mean a bike that is meant to be ridden short distances (to the bar) and then look "cool" sitting in the (bar) parking lot...
as opposed to a bike that is designed for function... to be ridden... and have decent suspension, ride quality, lean angles, brakes, etc. A REAL motorcycle in other words and not just another fashion accessory...
Different strokes and all that, but spend any time on the H-D forums and you'll find a lot of guys that build bikes with looks and "cool factor" as primary concerns and without regard for how well the machine works as a system.
The 48 (as well as the other current H-D Sporty offerings) are designed to cater to that group of potential buyers. Too many concessions to obtain "the look", IMO.
Not that it can't be addressed... I'm in the process of "correcting" some of the shortcomings of my bike now. It isn't too difficult to make the bike more into what I want it to be. Just took a bit of research to get it all figured out, but half the fun of motorcycles for me is the process of researching, learning and modifying, so it's all good!
There are no bar-hop bikes, only bar-hop riders.
Well, that could be said of any subset of bikes, if you want to get technical...
You can tour on a sport bike. You can do a trackday on a Goldwing, or a cruiser... There are lots of debates about what constitutes a "Cafe Racer"...
But, there are bikes that are designed, and perform best with specific functions in mind. The current Sporties (my bike included) has dismal suspension, poor brakes, forward controls, and less than sufficient lean angles (brought about by the "low and long" look crowd) It was designed with style and looks at the forefront of the drawing board. Call it what you want but it was designed with certain concessions to function in order to achieve the "look" that is popular with a large segment of potential buyers. There are guys that will take a new 48 and then lower it further, add apes, and do all sorts of things in the name of "looking cool", and care not how it affects function. Comments like, "no it doesn't work well, but it sure LOOKS COOL!" abound when discussing certain mods.
The term "bar hopper" is just a common term used to describe a bike built with that design philosophy.
I've already improved my brakes dramatically by installing a four pot caliper from the XR1200. I've already improved MY comfort and control by replacing the stock forward controls with mids. I already have longer shocks in hand, and all the parts I need to do the fork conversion are on order as of yesterday.
When done, I hope to have what I consider to be a much more functional motorcycle, with decent brakes, longer travel, more compliant suspension with vastly improved ride quality, and improved lean angles for riding in places other than straight lines. To me, that is taking a "bar hopper" and turning it into MY idea of what a real Sporty should be, a bike meant to be ridden and not just looked at. I'm still making certain concessions to looks though. I still have a 2.1 gallon tank good for about 70 miles. I'm keeping the bias ply, tube tires for the spoked wheels. And there are a myriad of other things, but they are compromises that I'M willing to make because I also enjoy a certain "look" with my bike. Especially this bike... It's all about buying, building, and riding what YOU enjoy...
I've only had the opportunity to do one track day so far. That day I rode my V-Strom in, disconnected the lights and signals, rode all day, ate the sack lunch I carried in with me, put her all back together and rode it home. That day I shared garage space with an HD product to my right and a 'wing to my left. All had a great time.
I agree, only "bar-hop" riders.
Lighten up, Francis!
These were so much fun, to bad they were pulled after only a year !
I'm trying to talk myself out of a 2008 Shiver at the moment.
The owner is a stuntman and a very good rider. It looks weird but with him in the driver's seat, it performs more than adequately.
That is awesome. Just saying.
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