What did you do with your Trials Bike today?

Discussion in 'Trials' started by Brewtus, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. grizzzly

    grizzzly The Pre-Banned Version

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    I had a few issues with the bike, and it still isn’t running right. And I rode like S#!T.
    The weather was great:clap, and the sections were fun, they set the sections with red and blue ribbon:ricky but he didn’t use any flags or pie plates:huh
    On my last loop I was driving from section 2 over to section 4 I noticed Willie standing off in the trees, I thought he must of broken down or something so I went over to check on him. Turns out he was scoring section 3:baldy
  2. Gordy

    Gordy Team Listo

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    :lol3. I hate it when that happens!
  3. ADVCoop

    ADVCoop Been here awhile

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    Awesome. Trials bikes are pretty rare around here. You usually occasionally see newer ones for $4-5k but not much else. So when I found this one for cheap I was excited haha.
  4. andrewgore

    andrewgore Gôremā

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    Found out yesterday that the piston my cylinder was bored\plated to has the wrong diameter pin. It seems Wossner made TXT 280 pistons, but bored the pin diameter for the PRO Model. TXT = 16mm. PRO = 18mm.

    This bike has been beyond an expensive headache. :lol3

    So long story short, my bike has continued to sit motionless in the garage.

    Andrew
  5. Stagehand

    Stagehand Imperfectionist

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    :gahh that sucks, man
  6. andrewgore

    andrewgore Gôremā

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    On the upside, the dealer I've been working with informed me that they've dealt with this before, and the issue is solved by pressing in a flanged bushing (from the inside so it' can't come out), and then they rebore it for 16mm pin.

    Not ideally what I'd like to do, but at the rate this bike is going, I'm ready to up and sell it and stick to my Yamahas & Harescrambles :lol3

    Andrew
  7. nwcycle

    nwcycle Long timer

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    Andrew, dont give up !!, It will be worth it, why cant you find the right size piston, and maybe close to what the bore was, I dont think the chromers will mind either honing to size.. or plating back to size.. Ether way, you can always sell your cyl and piston as a set.
    And look for a used one and start over. Its only Money !!!:D

    If I can help, You have my number
    Ron
  8. andrewgore

    andrewgore Gôremā

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    Piston Options -
    OEM Kit - 360$
    UK - 125gbp + Shipping

    I'll let Paynes sort it out with the Wossner.

    Andrew
  9. lamebrain

    lamebrain Adventurer

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    I just dealt with this on A 2000 txt 280! call or e-mail John @ Wossner, You'll be surprised how much cheaper getting a piston kit from them is compared to the same piston you will get from the dealer!
  10. lamebrain

    lamebrain Adventurer

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    I'm a little confused :huh,do you have piston with the 16mm pin or the 18mm pin? I'm pretty sure Wossner has the B, C, and D piston kits still available for the 16mm.
  11. andrewgore

    andrewgore Gôremā

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    From what Paynes Cycle has told me, the piston kits that they got from Wossner, are the proper main diameter for the 280 TXT, BUT the Diameter for the pin (holding to con rod) is 18mm.

    My piston, and as far as I know, any TXT engine (non PRO) has 16mm Pin Diameter.

    It makes no sense to me. I suppose I can myself call up Wossner and ask what the deal is.

    Looking at the Wossner site, the piston they list for a 2001 TXT280 is: 8144DA They say it fits 1999-2011. It lists the pin as: WP033, which is an 18mm pin.

    Something ain't jiving. :lol3

    EDIT - Just got off the phone with Wossner. I was informed that they were the ones who did the OEM pistons for GasGas. I was told they have 2 different pin hole diameters. Unfortunately he was setting up for at a trade show, so couldn't get me all the info. Time for me to call up Paynes & make sure they don't mod a piston, but get the correct one.


    EDIT 2 - Just to clarify, I have not seen a single thing in my hands. I called Paynes 3-4 weeks ago, and was told he had some Wossner pistons that were for the 280, but would work for my bike as the 270\280 cylinder castings were the same and the 270 could be bored to be cleaned up. Paynes finally got the cylinder back from boring\plating & when they were picking a new pin bearing for me, found that the piston pin diameter was too large. They said that all the porting & everything else was correct, but they wanted to verify some of the other stuff with my original piston, so they had me send that out (which I shipped out today).

    I'll be calling them (Paynes) up to make sure they get the correct piston from Wossner & don't modify the wrong one.

    Andrew
  12. lamebrain

    lamebrain Adventurer

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    I dont know if you talked price with the guys at Wossner, but I would buy the piston directly from them if they have what you need. It's half the price, for the same exact one!
  13. andrewgore

    andrewgore Gôremā

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    The piston kit I got from the shop was the same price listed on the Wossner site. If you have a direct hookup to the proper piston for 80$, let me know and I'll call them up right now & have my cylinder shipped right to me.

    Andrew
  14. lamebrain

    lamebrain Adventurer

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    No, I was talking about the Wossner price compared to the OEM price.
  15. 2whlrcr

    2whlrcr gooligan

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    I have a low hour 2012 GG that I would sell to you. A lot less hassle than you're going through and probably just about the same money, once you're done screwing around. But I know how Moose and you love to tear apart bikes.:D
  16. jonnyc21

    jonnyc21 Trials Ninja

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    Had 6 or so hours of fun with the family. :)

    My daughters first trials bike a beta 80. She learned the clutch in one day, heck she was as close to a natural as I have ever seen, she was able to use the clutch with little explanation and had it down in 2 or 3 tries... WOW! She started standing on the bike by around 45 min of riding.

    We found the stock bars a bit big for here so swapped them for a small set I had just in case. I twas well worth it and think she would have done even better if I had put them on right from the start.

    What a great day! (A video of some of the fun.) :clap

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  17. andrewgore

    andrewgore Gôremā

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    Just got the following message from Wossner Pistons:

    "...I have spoken with Tobias the owner of the company and he has said that the piston with the 18mm pin is the only one we carry, the piston that has the 16mm pin is for the TXT250...."

    Looks like custom piston mods it is. Time to call up Paynes.

    Andrew
  18. retroone

    retroone Long timer

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    jonnyc21 :thumb
  19. jonnyc21

    jonnyc21 Trials Ninja

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    Doesn't get to much better than family outings on trials bikes... maybe family outings to a local trials event! :evil
  20. amcross

    amcross Career Rookie/Novice

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    So...got to go work on the setup for the Tilton Trials all day Saturday. Had a BLAST!!

    Of course, being a mile or so out into the woods, there isn't exactly easy access to a porta-potty. So, I rode off a bit from our work crew, found a secluded space, made SURE there was no poison ivy or other nasty monsters in the area, and, well, "dropped drawer".

    Unfortunately, the section I'd been last working in was covered in stickers and burrs, and i hadn't noticed the burrs that had gotten stuck all up the side of my riding pants and my sweatshirt, even the inside of my open coat. Not noticed, that is, until I attempted to pull up my Football Pads Shorts I wear for protection ... and found them scraping all up the outside of both legs... it seems the stickers from the inside of the coat and other areas had rolled quite nicely onto the inside of the shorts and were well secured there.

    I spent the rest of the afternoon periodically pulling burrs and other stickers out of the inside of my shorts!! (Thanks heavens it was at least down the outside of the thigh and not somewhere, er... more sensitive!!):rofl