What do you think about the 990 ADVENTURE R

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  1. aaronc76

    aaronc76 Adventurer

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    Hello All,
    I am interested of buying a 2010 used KTM 990 ADVENTURE R.

    What are the bad things in this motorcycle? If any... =]
    Any known issues?
    What to look for before purchasing?
    Any aging diseases?

    Currently riding a 2009 XT660Z Yamaha Tenere.

    Thanks for you time and answers.
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  2. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    Too tall for normal people.
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  3. aaronc76

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    Thanks,
    I already test drive it and its fine for me.
    The Yamaha is quit high as well - 895 mm
    The KTM is 905 mm

    So another CM will be OK for me.
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  4. mousitsas

    mousitsas Long timer

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    Main niggles with the latest 990's are the clutch master and slave cylinders and the fuel filter which tends to clog easily with bad fuel. There are permanent fixes for the former, not so for the latter. Also some people who ride a lot offroad, relocate the side stand with one of the many kits in the market.
    The main problem with the bike is that it is so well balanced that you tend to find yourself in offroad situations you may not be able to get out easily.

    If you want a big bike that excels on dirt, rides like a street bike on the road and tours 2 up in comfort, then there is no other. I would only advice you, if you are not cyril despres, to get the low height model. It is easier to handle and feels lighter due to significantly lower C. of G.

    And a final word of caution, these bikes have race genes, which means that:
    a) It is very beneficial to tune the suspension to your weight and style.
    b) They require a time consuming service. Not so much in terms of frequency, but in terms of having a lot of stuff to remove in order to do basic maintenance.
    c) They are quite explosive in their power delivery. Nothing wrong with that, apart from making you ride like a lunatic.


    If on the other hand, riding 2up is not a priority, consider also the 950SE. It sits kind-of halfway weight-wise between the 690 and the 990 but with the power of the latter and with a much easier maintenance. It needs wind protection though.
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  5. aaronc76

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    Thanks for the info mate.

    Regarding the height of the bikes.
    How critical is it between the 'R' and the Standard model?
    No, I am not cyril despres, and do not ride like him..
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  6. aaronc76

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  7. It'sNotTheBike

    It'sNotTheBike Banned

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    First thing to check for is cracks in the engine cases
    where the side stand mounts. If the area is dirty
    you MUST clean it so cracks can be seen. The stock
    position for the side stand mount can cause the engine
    cases to be damaged and it is ESSENTIAL to relocate the
    side stand mount before using the bike off road.



    They are awesome bikes, and no other brand of bike in the world
    comes close. I agree with the suggestion for a 950 Super Enduro
    instead of an Adventure. The 950 SE is carbureted and doesn't have
    fairings and generally that will make life easier because the maintenance
    is simpler and the carbs won't have the issues found in the fuel injection
    system. Believe me, the 950 SE is more than fast enough for any sane person.



    Read and study everything in the pages below and you will be able to make an
    informed buying decision.


    http://www.ktm950.info/



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  8. Prime Mover

    Prime Mover Anything Can Happen

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    I love the looks of this bike, pure manlyhood. I would love to own one but I have to settle for my V-Strom instead. Don't know crap about any mecanical and/or performance issues... I just know I like the looks of it a whole lot.
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  9. aaronc76

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    Hi,
    Thanks for your thoughts.

    The 950 SE is not a real option for me as it is not common here in Israel where i live.
    So that leaves me with one option of the 990 Adventure.
    Either R or Dakar or the Standard edition.

    You, "It'sNotTheBike" and "mousitsas", both mention the side stand(s).
    I am not sure what this part is (language...), do you have a photo or a link that explains what it is? And what is the "relocate kit" in this context?

    Cheers!
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  10. RED CAT

    RED CAT Bumpy Backroader

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    Are great bikes. You won't be disappointed. Oil changes can take a little longer but after a few you'll discover short cuts. Had them down to a 1/2 hour. Most dirt oriented of the big Duallies. Wind management was the worst aspect for me. Big grins otherwise. Wouldn't bother with the SE unless you only want dirt.
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  12. alongat

    alongat Long timer

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    In addition to what everyone else mentioned, I would add that you will not regret it. I went from a KTM 690 (similar size and weight compared to the XT660) and apart from being heavier which you will get used to, the only thing to consider given the cost of fuel in Israel is the thirst of the 990. You will love it, especially the difference in power over your 660 and it's just as easy to fly through traffic in the urban areas as your 660.

    Mazal tov ve titchadesh
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  13. aaronc76

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    Cheers!

    Cheers mate!

    The only thing is...
    The KTM 690 weigh ~150 kg withfuel.
    The XT660Z is ~206 kg with fuel
    The KTM 990 is ~209(?)
    So i guess i am quit used to the weight.

    I know about the fuel consumption, not very happy about it... but what can I do, right?! ;-)
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  14. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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  15. aaronc76

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    Unfortunately it is not imported and sold here.
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  16. blacktiger

    blacktiger Tigers R great.

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    I'll have a word with John Bloor.:wink:
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  17. Capt.saveaho

    Capt.saveaho Been here awhile

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    I bought a standard new and the first thing I did (aside front a skid plate and side stand relocator) was make the bike taller. I made the mistake of not getting the R/S model.
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  18. Adventure boy

    Adventure boy Been here awhile

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    I just bought my 2nd 990 this time a brand new one the last in the showroom its a blue one and I wish id bought the R a bit taller but still not silly tall and im only 5foot 9 and the R was ok for me
    the colour of the R is simply superb to me and id change the panels with someone tomorrow,
    i traded my 800XC tiger for it and couldnt beleive how small the 990 felt after riding the tiger the 200 miles to do the deal, my memory of the 990 was that it was bigger.
    the balance of the KTm is soo much better as was the power delivery, I loved the tiger 800XC even bought the Triumph adventure suit boots and gloves to go with it but the 990 is just so much more

    Buy it ride it and enjoy it, most of the suggesgions you will get will be from the hard core off road boys some bits will be over the top for road riding

    In summary the 990 is a great bike road or off road farkel it for what you do and most of all mate enjoy it
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  19. Jonny955

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    That's funny - I was umming and arring over the R model when I bought my new 990 last year. The R had some appeal (no ABS because I didn't want it) but I'm a whisker off 6ft and found the bike a little too tall. I could ride it on the road without any issues but I was thinking ahead to the scenario where a trail falls away to one side of the bike - the side you are trying to plant a foot on!

    I preferred the painted finish of my lovely blue 990 so that kid of clinched the deal. My mate has the R and we're meeting up to swap bikes in a couple of weeks so I'll get a taste of what I'm missing out on.

    Even if I end up preferring the dynamics of the R, I'd still like to see some paint on a £10K bike!

    Jon
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  20. ykrweb

    ykrweb 1% Spawn

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    I'm 6'3" and my 2010R is one of the few bikes I fit on well. However, I still have to strain a bit when throwing my leg over. My two performance niggles: It gets blown around in the wind due to the height/profile and the power delivery is not smooth off idle due to the FI. I can live with both easily. My bike has been reliable while riding (14K miles so far) but I did replace a leaking o-ring for a few bucks. The FI will act funny sometimes but you can reset it. I added $5K of aftermarket stuff but everyone should at least relocate the side stand , lose the stock exhaust and add some additional lighting (US light is horrible). This bike will make you ride harder in most situations. Don't expect to putt it around town. It's doesn't like that much.
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