What happened to "Plain" Standard motorcycles?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by wmax351, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. DynaSport

    DynaSport Been here awhile

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    I don't know if mine fits your definition, but I really like it.

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  2. truck6driver

    truck6driver The Fireman

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    Thats why I buy old bikes. (plus thats all I can afford. :lol3)

    My 1983 FT500 Ascot

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    And my 1983 CB650SC Nighthawk

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    Ray
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  3. zokalr13

    zokalr13 Been here awhile

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    yeah new bikes with all their technology and price tag to match isnt what your after and we dont want a new take on 'retro bike' either... so your best bet is to find a REAL old z1000 or cb750 and be done with it..[​IMG]
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  4. ferrix

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    As others mentioned, UJMs still exist but they are often dressed up to look more 'exciting' or 'contemporary'. Also, these days they often get adventure design cues as well, causing untold amount of confusion here on ADVrider :) ER6N, Versys, Gladius and the upcoming Crossrunner are all UJMs. Yes, they do have more plastic than UJMs of old - such is the price of progress :)
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  5. HLC

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    An aesthetically beautiful engine is mechanical art, and a huge part of the appeal of a motorcycle for me. Swoopy plastic fairings aren't generally beautiful (Ducati 916 notwithstanding). Boy racers can have their Gixxers. Give me a Triumph Speed Triple, MV Agusta Brutale, Ducati Streetfighter, Norton Commando 961, etc.
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  6. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    liquid cooled motors should hide behind a fairing, nobody wants to look at a bunch of plumbing.

    for me that is where Monsters lost the plot. The air cooled ones are beautiful, the S4R is a convoluted mess.
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  7. blk-betty

    blk-betty bam-a-lam

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    How about this, much more "standard" looking than others suggested.

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  8. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    Plain standard motorcycles <> naked sport bikes (Speed Triple, Tuono, Brutale, Streetfighter, Hypermotard)


    I agree with this list:

    BMW F800R
    BMW R1200R
    Ducati Monster
    Yamaha FZ8
    Suzuki Gladius

    Unfortunately the best looking standard in the world isn't offered outside of JAPAN!

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  9. njd

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  10. wmax351

    wmax351 Been here awhile

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    I think that is a good point. I have an old K75 standard. About as boring as bikes get, but fun it its own right. Basically a car.


    That CB1100 is beautiful. Wish they had those here.

    I've ridden an SV650 standard. I did like it, and it is certainly a fine bike, but not quite the jack of all trades thing. Couldn't see riding it with a pillion.
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  11. Butters

    Butters Kwyjibo

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    Here you go. You can buy one today at your local Suzuki dealership:
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    I too have a K75. But unlike you, I love the looks of the current generation of naked standards - Bandits, Bonnevilles, Street Triple, I'd take any of them. Ironically, I really never cared for the looks of the old CBs. :dunno

    But if it's (relatively) naked and has a fairly upright riding position it's a standard in my book. But the folks that like standards are probably outnumbered 100:1 by the cruiser and crotch rocket fans.

    Edit: How about this for a modern standard?
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  12. perterra

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    I dont, I prefer the CB 750 or one of these two.
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  13. shu

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    The DR650 is actually pretty close to the UJM, I think.


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    RoyQ's bike : DR650 thread


    neutral and comfortable seating position: check
    normal handlebars:check
    without tons of plastic: check
    visible engine: check
    powerful engine: well, it's pretty low powered for bikes today, but it would have been pretty average in the early seventies: 35 hp, same as the Honda 350 I think.

    ........shu
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  14. flak

    flak Long timer

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    I'd agree you were on to something there in terms of ergos/stance/nakedness

    but as you pointed out, I think the power (and delivery) would be woefully outmatched vs. most modern day standards

    probably hangs fine with the modern retro bikes though
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  15. DAKEZ

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    It hangs fine with just about anything to about 85mph. Out-shines a large standard for urban riding.
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  16. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    I dunno, the brakes suck and tire selection is marginal. My EX650 was better in every way.
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  17. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    MY NEXT BIKE!!! I love this thing and have been waiting for Harley to build it for 10 years....
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  18. NJ-Brett

    NJ-Brett Brett

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    When I think standard, I think old English bikes, older sportsters, the UJM bikes, the w650, new Bonneville, the TU250.

    A standard should be a bike that two people can jump on and go for a comfortable ride, with a real rear seat and pegs a normal size passenger can use for a few hours at least.

    That style is still popular in other places, like Japan.
    They get the cb400ss and other cool standards.

    I have only ridden standards on the street since I started street riding 36 years ago.
    Old Triumphs mostly, new Triumphs, Sportsters, tu250.
    Old dual sports were standard bikes with a little more suspension...
    I have dual sported standard street bikes, and rode standards all around the US, and never found I needed wind protection or a lot of plastic all over my bikes.
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  19. ThomasVolomitz

    ThomasVolomitz New Old Stock

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    Old NJ Brett- gotta throw the TU250X in there! I guess it qualifies.
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  20. DAKEZ

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    Did you miss the word "large" ??? An EX650 is not what I would consider a large Standard. Even with that I find a thumper much better for urban assault.
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