What makes the R1200R such a poor seller?

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Snapping Twig, May 9, 2012.

  1. Snapping Twig

    Snapping Twig Adventurer

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    IMO it's the best of, but that's not a sentiment shared by new buyers if I'm to believe various BMW dealerships.

    I had a difficult time finding mine, no problem finding the Classic version, but mine - not so much.

    What makes it so? Is it the do everything but nothing well? Could it be the lack of protection the RT offers or the off road capability of the GS?

    I like naked bikes and with a proper windscreen there's plenty of protection, it's lighter than a RT with most everything else the same, it is better at the twisties than a GS and lower to the ground for stability, and it can go off road if need be.

    Your thoughts?

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  2. kadesean

    kadesean eyesuck

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    Great bike, but smallish fuel capacity. For a few dollars more per month (many folks shop that way) you can get into the GS. The GS sells because of the cool factor of off-road potential. I have always believed the GS to be a touring bike for people who didn't want to admit they wanted a touring bike.
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  3. JakeS

    JakeS Yup

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    that looks fantastic those new colors look great..
    Is that the low seat option? looks like one big dip in it..
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  4. Hoop71

    Hoop71 Been here awhile

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    Not sure but I LOVE mine.

    Also tank is not that bad. I got 300 km on my last tank.

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  5. wannaklr

    wannaklr Long timer

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    Hell, I liked the R850R I had. Was a fun bike.

    Always liked the R versions, but there are so many competitors in that segment I think it just gets lost.
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  6. chazbird

    chazbird Long timer

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    Because I can't afford it. If I could it would sell better.
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  7. page62

    page62 Been here awhile

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    Simple: Americans don't buy many naked bikes, standards or supermotos. I've owned several, and each one was a disappointment in terms of sales for the manufacturer.

    The majority of Americans buy cruisers or streetfighters. But I'm thinking the trend is changing a bit...hopefully.
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  8. hoax

    hoax Been here awhile

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    Because it's a steak when the market wants a hamburger. I think BMW should bring back the R90 in a similar fashion to what Moto Guzzi has done with the V7.
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  9. Rinty

    Rinty Been here awhile

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    The same issue pops up all the time about the RS/ST, and I have always thought that the problem is that the RT and GS do everything so well that for many riders there's no reason to get a different model. And the GS is a benchmark design to boot.

    But I like BMW's orphans, and Ducati's (i.e. the ST2 and Paso). :D
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  10. jings

    jings Been here awhile

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    ive got one and its a keeper best bike ive ever had and ive had a lot in the past 30 years
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  11. vink

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    Hey i don't know much about the bike. I have ridden a 1200GS and a r1200s and they are great. I love the boxer twin. The styling the finish and the sound it's a great machine. BMW's are great I wish i had one.
    I do really like my ST though.
    That's a keeper.
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  12. joef

    joef Been here awhile

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    Because its not a MULTISTRADA :rofl:rofl
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  13. AviatorTroy

    AviatorTroy Long timer

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    Man I love that black and white paint. Sweet bike! :deal
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  14. Snapping Twig

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    Thanks!

    That's the standard comfort seat, no changes from stock.

    2012 has this as the OEM.
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  15. Butters

    Butters Kwyjibo

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    A guy walks into the BMW showroom to buy a GS because he fantasizes about a RTW trip that will never happen.

    A guy walks into the BMW showroom to buy an RT because he fantasizes about his annual cross country trips that will never happen.

    A guy walks into the BMW showroom to buy an S1000RR because he fantasizes about having a big pecker (okay, he fantasizes about winning the Superbike Championship.)

    What does the guy walking into the showroom to buy the R1200R fantasize about? It is merely a very beautiful, very competent motorcycle. Blech, who would want such a thing?

    If BMW wants to sell R1200R bikes, they better start spending some $$$$ in product placements so the general public can see James Bond, the Terminator, the Transporter, and maybe CarrotTop riding them. Then a guy can walk into the BMW showroom to buy an R1200R because he fantasizes about all the women with whom he will score because he rides the cool guys' motorcycle.

    Until that happens, the only people buying them will be guys who want a very beautiful, very competent motorcycle. And there aren't too many of those stupid f*****s around.

    :hide

    (Yes, I love the R1200R. But I'm kind of a stupid f*****.)
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  16. conchscooter

    conchscooter Long timer

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    The guys who want a competent bike and no more might be worried by BMW's reputation for super expensive parts and servicing. The guys who buy super expensive BMW fashion bikes either have the money to ride a long way and not care about the costs; OR aren't planning long trips on their $20,000 GS which they hope has high resale value after innumerable trips no firther than Starbucks.
    For the money there are lots of competent capable bikes and for less money there are even more competent capable bikes with less expensive back up.
    I'm a BMW type rider who has rented lots but doesn't look likely to ever own, and an R would be my kind of bike...
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  17. bobw

    bobw Harden the phuck up

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    I think the replies are good and as close to the "truth" of the matter as you can get. I loved mine and I also would love to see the 1200S/ST still offered or a new RS. I am another that tends to seek out the "poor" selling bikes for some reason.

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  18. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    I understand it sells very well in Europe.
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  19. TRRcheck

    TRRcheck Been here awhile

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    So does the XR1200 :(
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  20. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    Now this is a bmw rider: 15k bike with $100 luggage hanging off of it. :rofl

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    Reminds me, I saw a K1600GTL with an airhawk seat cushion on it the other day. $30k for a bike; can't scrape up $300 for a decent seat. :lol3


    BMW sells bikes to people who want a BMW. Given the tractor motor and the money they charge, I'll continue shopping elsewhere. :dunno
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