What Modern Bike?

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Joelh, Jul 16, 2017 at 3:55 AM.

  1. Steve W.

    Steve W. Boxer Pilot

    Joined:
    May 14, 2005
    Oddometer:
    502
    Location:
    Upstate South Carolina
    Well at 62 and two BMWs in the stable (78 R100S, 01 GS) I had been looking for a "modern" ride. It had to be fast and comfortable. The new WC BMWs are having a lot of problems, and I have some sad history with the oilhead. So I went kinda crazy and ended up with a like new '13 MTS Touring. It checks all the boxes for me. 00b0b_cLdJ77ENaWb_600x450.jpg
    #41
  2. mslim

    mslim If it's worth doing... it's worth overdoing

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2015
    Oddometer:
    778
    Location:
    Austin of the Ozarks
    As I mentioned earlier I have been tempted by Guzzi's but is the riding posture on the V11 too much for a 69 y/o rider used to an R90S with rearsets and stock bars?

    Slim
    #42
  3. SculptD

    SculptD Smells like tech

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Oddometer:
    993
    Location:
    SF, CA
    I would think that if you are good with 90S bars with no risers, you would be fine with the V11, maybe with risers.
    #43
  4. Recht

    Recht Binge Thinker

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Oddometer:
    1,490
    Location:
    NYC
    [​IMG]

    I like the T120.
    #44
  5. Joezeph

    Joezeph Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2017
    Oddometer:
    108
    Location:
    AR
    I like your choice of manufacturer, & l think the Bonnie now comes in 900 & 1200cc versions, but, my Triumph of choice is the Tiger 800 Roadie with upgrades leaning towards the XCX , it's now got everything l want & more!

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    #45
    NEPAChuy and Dreossi like this.
  6. beemerphile

    beemerphile Long timer

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,756
    I had a 2004 R1150R for many years to supplement my airheads. I forgot to be afraid of it since it ran flawlessly for a dozen years and took me to the top of the continent and back. Two years ago I booted it for a 2013 R1200GS which has also been flawless. The maintenance on the R1200 is easier than the airhead (the camhead design is brilliant). They seem to get along. However, unlike @bikerfish my airhead still makes long trips. Every year the RS goes to Maine and it is going again this year. When given a choice, take both...

    [​IMG]
    #46
    Uke, Jim Day and Mugwest like this.
  7. Mugwest

    Mugwest .

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Oddometer:
    12,418
    Location:
    3rd Ring of Buzztopia
    It is if one is devoted to the Boxer and a driveshaft due to simply preferring those attributes over newer bling and chains. I'd rather know the machine as intimately as the guy on the assembly line did and thus be able to fix it in BFE than to be lulled into a soporific hands-off haze from riding a 'dependable' washing machine.

    It's one of those YMMV things.
    #47
    ccmickelson likes this.
  8. deafanddiabetic

    deafanddiabetic What? Huh?

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    Oddometer:
    652
    Location:
    Nebraska
    I recently bought my first modern motorcycle. It's a BMW F800S. Onboard computer, disc brakes, ABS, 6th gear and it's very comfortable for me. I also kind of enjoy the compliment of my garage sharing two bikes that are 5 decades apart from each other.

    I have heard and ridden the V-Stroms and the comparability to an airhead is undeniable. If I choose an adventure bike that's modern, I'll choose a V Strom. I also highly recommend the new Bonnevilles, I've ridden one a handful of times and it had all the smiles of the vintage style but handled so much better than any airhead I've owned.
    #48
  9. Rob Farmer

    Rob Farmer Long timer

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Oddometer:
    7,209
    Location:
    Loughborough, Leicestershire. England
    I was going to buy one of those. Triumphs are made in my County so I really wanted to like it. Loved the looks of it too. Took one for I ride and hated the handling.
    #49
  10. Jim Day

    Jim Day full manic mechanic

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2012
    Oddometer:
    2,875
    Location:
    So. Cal.
    That GS looks surprisingly small next to that RS.
    #50
  11. Trip Hammer

    Trip Hammer It's not the years, it's the mileage

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2013
    Oddometer:
    616
    Location:
    Seattle
    I've heard that about the new T120's - sort of cumbersome in the handling department. Can't be any worse than the air cooled ones right? I'm seriously looking to add a new Bonnie to the garage as well, but not sure if the T100 is worth the trade off for better handling yet less punchy engine. It'd be a city bike that looks good anyway, so I'm not too concerned. Fine looking bikes though.
    #51
  12. beemerphile

    beemerphile Long timer

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,756
    Camera angle, I guess.

    [​IMG]
    #52
    Jim Day likes this.
  13. Steve W.

    Steve W. Boxer Pilot

    Joined:
    May 14, 2005
    Oddometer:
    502
    Location:
    Upstate South Carolina
    AFAIK after '07 the twins are made in Thailand. You can tell by the serial number.
    #53
  14. airheadPete

    airheadPete Wherever they send me.

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2012
    Oddometer:
    941
    Location:
    Portland, OR area
    He used a wide-angle. That mashes the perspective in order to get everything into the frame. Anything up close becomes disturbingly large compared to what's in the background.
    Want to neutralize that? Use a telephoto. A "normal" lens that mimics what we see with our eyes is usually consider something about 50mm for a 35mm SLR.

    There are a LOT of GS1200's where I park my old RS at work. In comparison, they look like elephants.
    #54
  15. ME 109

    ME 109 Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2009
    Oddometer:
    5,876
    Location:
    Albury Australia
    There's a good reason for that!
    They are elephants.
    #55
  16. Captdan

    Captdan Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2012
    Oddometer:
    634
    Had an R1200 GSA. Bought an airhead and never rode the GSA. Sold it, now have two airheads. Seems I like them over the newer bikes...
    #56
  17. beemerphile

    beemerphile Long timer

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,756
    You say that like it's a Bad Thing. I have an elephant, a rubber cow, and a K-whiner. Never been one of the cool kids.
    #57
    Uke likes this.
  18. Beemerboff

    Beemerboff Long timer

    Joined:
    May 23, 2005
    Oddometer:
    2,897
    Location:
    Adelaide, South Australia
    When I retired I had the means to buy any bike that took my fancy, and I set out to find one that was better for the sort of riding that I do than my well worn but well set up Airheads.
    Not an easy task, forget any road test you have read that was done since the advent of photo shop, when you actually ride these modern things, stock,, right off the showroom floor you wonder what motorcycle designers have been doing for the last 40 years, apart from playing with autocad.
    Like uncle Pete I dont need any more power than a well set up airhead and probably couldnt handle the mechanical complexity. And most are way to high / heavy too, add 100 kg to claimed dry weight for a decent comparison.
    I tried a Suzuki DL 650, gutless until you have 6000 revs on the clock and handling not a patch on my G/S, never mind the GS.
    The 800 twin BMW was even worse, went like a triple with one plug lead off, over sprung and under damped with lousy feel and turn in, and they were probably the best of what I tried.
    We have shit state Triumph dealer so couldn't get a test ride , but wouldn't have bought from him anyway, and next nearest is 800 km away.
    Best road bike was a Guzzi 750 Brevia, good package just a little bit better at everything than my R75/7, best soft roader was a $800- 95 BMW F650 Funduro, more punch where it counted than the DL650 and handling in a different league , it is an Aprilla after all, and a bullet proof carbed Rotax motor.
    And at the price plenty of room the get it just the way I want it.
    Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha singles are crude and agricultural be compassion, and they probably predate airheads in the technology stakes too
    In Oz it seems the best way into a newish bike is a used Honda - there seems to be plenty second hand that have done 2/3000 km a year and a bike little more than run in can be had for 25/30% of the cost new. The 750 Transalp isnt bad stock and the Varadao is much better than you will read in any road test. VFR is well reviewed but no better than a 1100 brick.
    Best soft roader was Cagiva Elephant, but they will be almost as old as an Airhead and 30 year old Ducati motors send a shudder down most mechanics spine!
    IMHO a well set up GS airhead fulfills its design brief as well as any bike you can buy today and the average rider can ride - most of the claimed performance increases are simply unusable on public roads or off road by anyone short of a full pro racer on a track and the price / weight / size / complexity just doesn't take me somewhere I want to be.
    #58
    mslim and andymach23 like this.
  19. ME 109

    ME 109 Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2009
    Oddometer:
    5,876
    Location:
    Albury Australia
    I should clarify that, Lee.
    They are as much of an elephant in deep sand as my RS is.
    21" inch front makes all the difference.
    #59
  20. boxerboy81

    boxerboy81 Stay Horizontal

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2009
    Oddometer:
    3,259
    Location:
    Melbourne, Oz
    I went for something very different from the R100RS.

    I found a 8900km 2006 K1200r 163hp It's a blast and so far has been fun to ride. Only 311 velocity points earned in 14K km!


    [​IMG]
    #60