What protective gear do Dakar riders wear in the race?

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  1. dell-man

    dell-man Madman

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    I'm wondering if anyone knows of a site that lists/illustrates the protective gear the riders wear in the Dakar rally. I ran into a site ealrlier this year that illustrated this very well, but cannot find it.

    Thanks in advance for the help.

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  2. JustAL

    JustAL Armchair Adventurer

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    Sinsalo or Dainese are some of the gear that's used.
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  3. widebmw

    widebmw Been here awhile

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    What ever their sponsors tell them to wear.
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  4. longtallsally

    longtallsally Yeah I'm a chick

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    I thought many used the BMW Rallye 2 and Rallye 2 Pro- at least that was what was stated in the research I did.
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  5. WONB2K

    WONB2K The Road Less Traveled

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    Dakar race gear covers everything imaginable. Layering is important due to the temperature extremes. Cold weather gear is usually discarded after a drop in altitude in the first couple of European stages, Africa is usually much warmer.

    The BMW Rallye Pro Gear has been a favorite for many teams in past years, regardless of the m/c brand they were riding. It's pricey but good!

    Here's what I know about the North American teams competing this year...Kini is the choice of Red Bull KTM, Charlie's P.A.I. group ran with MSR last year but have Klim as a sponsor this year. Tim Hall will be using the Rocky Mountain ARC line of gear. Kevin Heath preferred Acerbis when he ran in '05 and '06 and the Rally PanAm team from Mexico, Terry Curtis/Sunny Irvine will use Acerbis this year. Chris Jones and Elmer Symons will both use MSR. How's that for diversity? Hope it answers your question.

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  6. NJ Moto

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    I remember reading somewhere that most of the independent riders wear the BMW gear.
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  7. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    I believe our friend wishes to know what TYPE of protective gear the riders use, knee braces, chest/arm protection, thermal wear etc, not what brands they are paid to wear. I`m keen to find out as well.
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  8. richard cranium

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    long time lurker, first time poster, but i thought i'd throw my 2 bobs worth in here as it's a subject thats close to home.

    although i don't know exactly what safety gear individual riders will be wearing at this years dakar race, it's my understanding that the "leatt neck brace" (link is here) is mandatory for all riders this year.

    dick.
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  10. dell-man

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    Thanks for all the responses so far, I welcome them all.

    However, GSD4ME is correct, in that I was seeking what type of gear i.e. under garments, knee/elbow pads, braces, etc. they wear during the stages. It's for my own knowledge and I'm trying to understand how these guys prepare for the races months, even years in certain circumstances. I read a site that illustrated this very well earlier this year (I think it was a KTM team rider from 2004 or 2005) but I cannot recall what site it was.

    stk0308, where on the Dakar.com site did you find the Regulations? I've also been looking for this and failed to find it.

    Thanks for all the responses so far.

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  11. K1W1

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    Get hold of the "Race to Dakar" DVD by Charlie Boorman.
    You can watch about 8 hours of people getting dressed and undressed in all sorts of gear for the Dakar Rally in 2006.
    The general protective equipment (other the the obvious helmets and gloves) seems to be knee braces and full chest / shoulder /elbow armour under their riding jackets and pants. I assume that they will also be wearing some sort of kidney / lower back support as well (I know I would).
    My understanding is that virtually all if not all riders will be wearing neck braces this year.
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  12. stk0308

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    From my casual discussions with Tim about gear he's using I can remember the following list:
    Arai dirt helmet
    EVS BJ33 armor (just like the one I decided on for my dirt riding. I do recall him saying it had to be a CE rated product)
    Alpinestars Tech10 boots. Though I believe he was also evaluating some ARC MX220 boots for the rally as well.
    An ARC rally jacket over the EVS armor
    Some off the shelf ARC enduro pants(in the boot style)
    knee guards(not braces I'd like to point out)
    and ARC fleece jersey (just one of a few layers for those really cold mornings/evenings)

    Wouldn't you know it, rockymountainmc.com is down right now so I can't get specifics on the ARC names. But really, most of it was off the shelf from them.
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  13. barbasma

    barbasma 100% CAROTONE

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    yes but under they don't wear bmw protection... but other... full cest protection like these...

    here the one that was used MEONI... and i use...

    [​IMG]

    and this... improved by BMW/KTM for dakar...

    [​IMG]
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  14. WONB2K

    WONB2K The Road Less Traveled

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    Barbasma,
    Who makes this suit? It must be a European manufacturer, it looks much more substantial compared to those I'm familiar with here in the states.

    Jim
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  15. AntWare

    AntWare Lost In Translation

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    Jim, try this link to SixSixOne pressure suits
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  16. gsd4me

    gsd4me 90% bluff

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    I`ve watched the `Race to Dakar` DVD (quite) a few times and have noted the gear they wear. I was wondering if they take the BMW armour out or wear the shoulder/chest/arm outfits in conjunction with it.

    Same with the black `Cotswold` jackets they wear underneath the Rallye jackets. Do they leave the BMW liners in or take them out and just wear the black one underneath for warmth etc.

    Ditto for the knee braces that saved Simon Pavey a very bad injury later on in the rally.
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  17. K1W1

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    I guess it depends on your personal definition of ATGATT.
    For me if I was wearing body amour under a jacket there is no way I would want the shoulder or elbow armour inside the jacket as well. Just think how difficult it would be to move with two sets of shoulder armour fighting each other and what actual benefit would you get from wearing two sets anyway?
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  18. SteveRed

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    I've started wearing a Dianese pressure armour suit and POD knee braces on my dirt rides... Too many old dirt riders I know breaking bones, stuffing knees or fracturing pelvises... I had a really big off a couple of months ago (80km/hr drop on tar) I was wearing knee guards and elbow guards and Tech Ten boots... I also had Kevlar liners under my dirt gloves! My outer garments were torn to shreds and my riding gloves were worn away. But I got up, straightened up the bike and kept riding. Thank God for the protection is all i can say!
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  19. JTT

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    That's the UFO body armour suit....available in N America. Not a great deal different from offerings of the other manufacturers such as 661 or others.
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  20. sherpa

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    A brief search didn't pull up anything that looked like that pic in the previous post....:dunno...

    ...anybody got a link to that armor pictured?
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