What the Frig do I do now

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by MGV8, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    The issue there is power. And suspension. Not enough, and not enough.

    About using that 1980 R100RS, ground clearance and suspension travel is not nearly as critical on a rig as on a solo bike for backcountry travel. I agree with Cleatus that unless yer gonna do some gnarly roads, all you really need is a stout suspension. That just means that if the shock is OK, you just need to upgrade the spring and then do the same to the forks.
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  2. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    There are lots of R1100gs showing up later ones post transmission problems are easy too find have enough power, are geared lower and Side Effects are in your neighborhood for support, old Honda GL1100 unfaired models work good but lack ground clearance.DB
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  3. Rockman

    Rockman Been here awhile

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    Pic of a CX subframe if you want to go that way - its a 500, but the 650's are very similar

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  4. MGV8

    MGV8 Been here awhile

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    Ok that is very nice, something like I was thinking. I checked to see if the local guy had tubing that I wanted, he does. So once work slows down I think I will make some mounts for the CX just to get going. If it works great then I will invest more time and money into the CX. Or if it works but I need more power, etc etc I will continue the search for a better bike to pull the car with so this should give me more time to save the money I need. I should be able to build a mount and sub frame in a couple of week ends so won't really have that much invested. I will keep posting here of my progess as it happens. Thanks for all the advise
    Brian
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  5. GreatWhiteNorth

    GreatWhiteNorth Long timer

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    Why not visit with Peter & Brock at Side Effects in Kamloops. Am sure they could whip up a custom subframe for you in no time. I think that bike would make a nice tug, but with a lighter sidecar... just my opinion. There was a neat little rig for sale in BC Kijiji recently that they'd built - an adventure style sidecar on a Honda Transalp.
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  6. MGV8

    MGV8 Been here awhile

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    Yes I saw that ad for the Transalp. I am seriously considering Side Effects, but I do have the fab skills, just not as well engineered as theirs. If I find the perfect GS, (Read Cheap) I may contact them to have it attached.
    Brian
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  7. jaydmc

    jaydmc Long timer

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    You have the CX, they work well as a sidecar bike. The sub frame is very easy to make for this bike, It will not cost all that much to mount the sidecar if you make the mounts your self. So I say run the CX
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  8. ReCycled

    ReCycled Been here awhile

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    The 2wd sidecars like that have less wheel lead than the 1wd Urals. You may want to mount the whole thing a bit forward of where you otherwise would mount a typical Ural sidecar.

    You might also want to consider the best way to remove the 2wd bits for free wheeling...
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  9. halflive

    halflive Been here awhile

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  10. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass The AntiHarley

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    I bet he could sell a bunch of those extra parts on Soviet Steeds.
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  11. Sidecarjohn

    Sidecarjohn Been here awhile

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    Nothing wrong with an airhead Beemer, but the CX is known, available and predominantly would appear to mean less cost implications. Surely a major factor considering the original question is being posed. The subframe issue, although important, is hardly a deal breaker.

    Any CX outfit I have known over the years has been a sound proposition whether a 500 or 650. Go for it.
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  12. halflive

    halflive Been here awhile

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    An airhead does also require a subframe. The oval frame tubes are very thin walled. A proper airhead subframe will cost about 800 dollar. Much more than a home build CX subframe.
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  13. yatesfly

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    I hope you go ahead with he cx and build the subframe. I have a gl500 that has about 60something thous on it and is expendable I also have a dnepr sidecar. I talked to sidecar Bob and looked at the pictures I could find and the angle iron looks the easiest for me. I am just slow and not good at posting pictures on the pc. However reading your post has got me at least looking for iron and have enough to start. One reason I got held up was it appears I may have to lose the exaust system as it is (maybe) and some of the fairing that is no big deal. I do have a mt-16 dnepr so I kind of know what a rig looks like. Anyway good luck and I will watch your progress and will post to let you know how I am getting on. I think the first part I will make will be the part that goes on the engine lugs and try to figure out in space where I want the front mounting ball. And am also thinking of using the center stand mounting ears. Any how good luck hope you go with the cx they are good bikes. Dennis
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  14. yatesfly

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    actually the pictures I am using came from halflives site Dennis
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  15. MGV8

    MGV8 Been here awhile

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    Thanks, I have read through that post, I think I will get my feet wet with the CX.
    But I got held up. I was planning on getting started this weekend but when I went for the tubing all my guy had was square or black pipe. I don't have bending dies for either and don't want to use either. I do have some 1 inch DOM left from a suspension project but don't want to use it for this project. Tubing is now on order. Maybe I will work on making the CX run again. A good first place the start :D
    Brian
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  16. MGV8

    MGV8 Been here awhile

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    Thanks Jay, that is the plan for now. If I find the perfect GS I will be in touch.
    Brian
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  17. Dickie

    Dickie Seasoned Sidecarist

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    Go for it. I had many happy years with a CX and Palma with no troubles at all. Com star rear wheel can be converted to a car rim with a couple of steel polos quite easily. I didn't have a sub frame on mine, although it may have been the best option, just a steel plate bolted between the two lower engine eyes. Top mount was a long bolt with caps through the tube above the radiator on my 500, with an eye bolt on the end. Top rear was a tube clamp and the bottom rear was a plate mounted on the bolts rear of the rider foot rest. Watsonian supplied it all as a kit, although that was in the early 80's.
    I made up a fork brace and some caps to allow me to put external springs over the fork tubes to stiffen the forks.
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  18. XL-erate

    XL-erate Been here awhile

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    Just a note to DIY builders here. Many larger cities in the U.S.A. will have a Surplus Steel or Surplus Metals company in town. Surplus doesn't have to mean old rusty or used crap at all. Usually it's brand new leftovers from large jobs.

    Both surplus places I've used in the last 10 years had top quality steel and alloys that were well protected from inclement weather. Maybe a light surface rust on some but that's no problem. The two I've used sell by the pound, not the steels specs, and the prices are jaw drop low! In general I can buy $500 worth of steel for $50-$100 or less.

    Added bonus is some of the premium stuff is often mixed in with common mild steel and is sold at the lower prices. Just have to check the numbers on the tube, plate or whatever and know what you're looking for. Pays to investigate and shop around.
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  19. MotoJ

    MotoJ Mobtown Hacker

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    These guys have locations all over the place. They have everything and they'll cut it to size for you, so you don't have to worry about transporting long lengths from a wholesale steel yard.

    http://www.metalsupermarkets.com/
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  20. XL-erate

    XL-erate Been here awhile

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    Yes, handy if they're local and no minimum purchase plus cut lengths.
    However I don't think they sell as a Surplus dealer and the difference in prices is just amazing. I think I pay between $1.85 and $2.25 per lb surplus price, not sure. Will call them tomorrow if I remember [fat chance] and post up current price.
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