What the Frig do I do now

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by MGV8, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. MotoJ

    MotoJ Mobtown Hacker

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    They do have scrap bins you can pick through and buy by the pound, but it's not surplus, per se. I bought 53 lbs of small pieces of varying thickness plate to use as welding coupons for $14 a couple weeks ago. In the bins were a few pcs each of steel round tube, square tube, angle, etc, in lengths of 4 feet or so. Easily big enough to put a sidecar frame together.

    Just a resource for others if they have a Metal Supermarket nearby. There's a Store Locator on the site.
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  2. XL-erate

    XL-erate Been here awhile

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    Sounds good! There aren't any Metal Supermarkets in the towns I've shopped at, probably because the Surplus Steel places are already there and well established. That sounds like a good option, thanks!
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  3. MGV8

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    Yeah I wish we had a ready supply of steel/what ever. I haven't got my tubing yet, but have been way too busy at work to follow up with my steel guy. Being in the hinterland of Canada we have to order any thing out of the ordinary, in. My needs are a bit small to order direct from the big guys so I piggyback an order with my local Fab shop. Any ways lots of winter to come so have time. On the plus side found a bad choke cable on the CX, stuck on. Of course a new one is out of the question so I will get creative with what I have. Might get started soon depending on my dear wife's schedule :D
    Brian
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  4. MGV8

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    So it took me a while to get the CX/Ural combo to the point I had the confidence to ride it. Re-did my mounts, moved the car front, back, in, out. Re-did the toe and lean out. Nothing had any effect on the head shake. There is too much scrub. So I actually gave up for a while. This spring I acquired a VW steering damper and cobbled it to the project. Voila, you can get the unit up to speed with out KILLING your self. :evil
    So I have been tooling around town all summer. I even had it up to highway speed, :eek1 no fun as there is no wind protection at all. Any ways, it pulls one way when on the gas, pulls the other on the brakes, doesn't stop worth a shit, nose dives on left turns, flys the car on rights, bounces and bottoms out the suspension over the bumps. Hard as hell to steer. Only left me stranded once. One plus is you certainly get the thumbs up from pedestrians. Trouble is every time I get off after surviving another ride is I have this big grin on my face that doesn't leave for a while:D I might just have to proceed with this project and attach it to the Beemer:huh
    Brian
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  5. ked

    ked Been here awhile

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    sounds like you're hooked. have fun

    ked:clap
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  6. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad n00balicious

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    My personal belief is that the sidecar windshield is directing a bunch of wind at you. A bunch of people come up with ways to lay it down and hold it with straps when there isn't anyone in the hack.
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  7. DavePave

    DavePave Been here awhile

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    I had no head shake at all. I used 20% of wheel base for sidecar wheel lead. In my case about 10" ... With about 1/4" lean out and 3/4" toe in. Which worked well.

    Then for some stupid reason I changed it and I've had a little head shake ever since - can't seem to get rid of it. But the bike runs true @ about 50 MPH.

    I have found though that strapping the bike so the suspension is in the position it is in, when I am riding helps. As well as ensuring that I have all tires aired up and roll the bike back and forth between measurements and re-alignments.

    As far as the pulling when you accelerate or hit the brakes, that sounds normal. After a while you'll acclimate and not even notice it. Just make sure to leave lots of following distance until you get accustomed to it.

    If the CX runs as fast as you like, then it may be a keeper. BTW, How fast does she go ?

    Have fun.....
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  8. Sidecarjohn

    Sidecarjohn Been here awhile

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    Looks sweet, although the sidecar being as high as it is could be an issue that's influencing the overall cntre of gravity. Such things are not always apparent until things are connected.
    How much lean out ? Although there can be no definites because of the bike sidecar mix, perhaps this is influential. At the risk of reprimand from inmates, maybe consider straight up rather than any leanout. Braking ? A case for a linkedsidecar brake ?
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  9. Poacher Bob

    Poacher Bob Persona non grata

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    On my Ural I undo the tabs on the windshield skirt and fold the windshield back....:deal
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  10. MGV8

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    This one was just an experiment to see if I really wanted to commit. I have a 2008 BMW GS that the car is going to be attached to. (Professionally) I just wanted to get it to the point where I can ride for a season. Mission accomplished. My comments about how it handles are some what tongue in cheek :D. This bike I acquired to restore then realized it would make a great Cafe Racer Clone. I think it is the totally wrong bike to have a car attached to with out major front suspension work.
    I have been running with the cover on and with the windshield down. Makes for better fuel mileage:wink:
    It is kinda fun, stopped into the Canadian Tire and bought a bunch of camp gear. I was able to just load it in the car and head home. That is after yakking with a bunch of old guys about the unit.:D
    Having fun
    Brian
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  11. halflive

    halflive Been here awhile

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    It sounds about right for a sidecar attached to a solo bike.
    A swing arm will help you with the steering and proper springs all around will stop the diving in corners.
    If you attach the tub to an airhead you will experience the same shortcomings. I understand you have been bitten by the bug, so no healing is possible. Better improve the CX with a trail reducer and wide bars, then sell the complete rig and build a new Beemer combo.
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  12. yatesfly

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    Nice job how wide is the track from bik rear wheel to sidecar wheel? I need to get motivated to hook a dnepr sidecar to my GL500 making room this winter. I don't want to cut my mounts if I can Avoid it I might want to put it on a dnepr some time. Dennis
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  13. MotoJ

    MotoJ Mobtown Hacker

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    Yatesfly, you can get weld on ball mounts that are normally on a Dnepr bike frame on EBay or at Ural Zentrale or Old Timers Garage, MotoBoxer, etc.
    You could make a subframe and make the ball mounts themselves adjustable on the subframe.
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  14. yatesfly

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    Ok thanks I will check those sites. Dennis
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  15. MGV8

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    I made my own ball mounts by cutting apart some old ball joints, Honda I think. Welded a large washer to them then made a spacer so I could bolt them to my mounts. That way I didn't have to weld to the bike or mess with the Ural mounts. They seem strong enough for what I wanted.
    Brian
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  16. MGV8

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    Oh yeah the track is 54 inches, I think
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  17. yatesfly

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    Thanks Brian I think I will measure the dnepr never did that. I like the job you did with the cx mine is a gl500 so might have to change a few things on it I like you have plans for a different tug I have my 71 xlch I would really like to end up using just need to get off my arse and free up some garage space before winter.
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  18. MGV8

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    Ok, finally proceeding, BMW purchased, Brock has almost cleared his work load, trail reducer ordered from Claude, wheel and other parts to convert the car over to a beemer wheel with brake. Hoping the hack will be built soon enough to ride to some events this summer. Committing to a new way of life:D
    Brian
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  19. GreatWhiteNorth

    GreatWhiteNorth Long timer

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    What model Beemer did you get for a tug?
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  20. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Onward and forward !
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