What the hell is the CHP doing today??

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by eatpasta, Aug 5, 2007.

  1. focallength

    focallength Long timer

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    Every once in a while they have to do something to justify their exsistence and present a show of force. Like not to long ago a huge group of bikers practically shut down a freeway, a few weeks later (not while, they were shutting down the freeway, even the 1 chippy who was on the freeway at the time said he didnt see any crimes being committed, yeah hard to see the 100+ bikers on the freeway doing wheelies, blocking traffic when your passed out in a donut hole coma) the CHP was out writing citations at popular bike hangouts/towing bikes etc... I wont get started on how largely innefectual law enforcement is. (being almost totally reaction based, even the honest cops will tell you they cant really do anything until after the fact) Especially the CHP, normally they decide to get all proactive when review/grant time comes around. Or when they get tired of hearing people complain (usually after 3-400 complaints and 6-8 months later)
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  2. Oni

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    I don't think they have crystal balls :D :lol3

    Where did the biker thing take place? That would have pissed me off if I was stuck in traffic! :huh
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  3. richard cabesa

    richard cabesa The Mayor

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    Yeah, maybe they could ticket or arrest people once in a while before they commit any crime just as a reminder, that way it wouldn't seem so reactionary
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  4. kluts

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    Except for the Berryessa sweep which they do every early summer, these step-up programs are the result of a no-tolerance order that issued from the Gov's office recently. Although you have seen the moto cleanup crews they are also enforcing on the raceway portions of the major roads, such as near Gorman on 5, Lincoln/Penryn on 80, Vacaville 80, and other fave places.

    This too shall pass. With summer's end things will turn to other pursuits.

    Be careful out there. :evil
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  5. xlcr

    xlcr Stop being a dick, dick.

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    They harass people who are minding their own business in order to scare away everyone who doesn't want to deal with the shit. It works so well, they've expanded the policy to the Lucerne Valley.


    http://www.contracostatimes.com/politics/ci_6591022


    SAN BERNARDINO -- County supervisors asked Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to declare a state of emergency in Lucerne Valley after water trucks supplying desert residents were impounded by the state, which said it acted after residents complained of the quality of their water. The governor's office was reviewing the request on Thursday.
    The California Highway Patrol and state health officials impounded the trucks because haulers supplying eight desert communities were delivering non-potable water in unlicensed tanker trucks.
    "We took action in the Lucerne Valley in response to concerns raised in the community of the quality of water there," said Suanne Buggy, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Public Health. "Our top priority is ensuring local residents have access to safe, clean water for use in their homes."
    She said the agency was "taking every step available to ensure safe, clean water is available to residents immediately."
    Most residents purchased the water to drink but said they didn't mind using it for showers, evaporative coolers and toilet flushing. Some have now shut off swamp coolers and stopped flushing toilets to save water.
    "There's nothing wrong with the water. We got it tested years ago and it's good, clean water," said Elsie Wenger, 86, who hasn't showered in a week. "All of us who live out of town depend on these water trucks. I don't know what to do."
    The health department took three water tankers off the road during a sting operation last week, citing each for being unlicensed and unsanitary. Two trucks were impounded by CHP officers because drivers lacked the proper drivers' licenses and permits, and a third tanker was ordered out of service for mechanical reasons.
    Schwarzenegger ordered state agencies to send four water tankers to the Lucerne Valley, and Cal Fire trucks were making deliveries on Thursday, governor's office spokesman Bill Maile said.
    Maile said the governor's office was reviewing the local state of emergency declaration sought by the Board of Supervisors.
    County fire trucks began delivering non-potable water for livestock on Wednesday. The county Department of Aging and Adult Services also started contacting elderly and disabled adults, delivering bottled water to at least five households.
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  6. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    You mean like riding your harley around with no license??

    Like the faking Governator himself perpatrated and was uncited.... might i add for his wrong doings. Where was the zero tolerence then??

    Im sure you all remember it, but read it here and look at his fat lip and chuckle
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  7. kluts

    kluts The Lost Tourguide

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  8. GillaFunk

    GillaFunk I use profanities

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    Its always those 10% that ruin it for the rest of us. :asshat 's
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  9. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Maybe the cops at the Rock Store will stop the stupid morons who ride at breakneck speeds, strafe cars and willfully transgress any and every law of the highway, just because they are using a motorized vehicle with two wheels, or have a 'Fast and Furious' decked out car. Dicks think because they have a such a vehicle the laws don't apply to them and then cry and berate cops, dumb shits. A track day is not much more than $100, that's all $100! The creeps, morons, dumb shits and Dicks should go to track day, then we'll see how woefully dickless and spineless they actually are when it comes to going fast. I'm all for having fun in my cars and on my bikes, but listen boys and girls, you HAVE to abide by the law, is there something wrong with this picture? Four words to live by my beloved children.......TAKE IT OFF ROAD
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  10. Aussie_Gringo

    Aussie_Gringo The anti-septic

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    I came across this earlier today.

    http://www.malibusurfsidenews.com/blog_news_alert/2007/07/operation-safe-canyons.html

    Supposedly, the increased presence of LEO's in the vicinity of The Rock Store is a result of two cagers racing in the vicinity of The Rock Store, taking both lanes.
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  11. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    Wow. thats nuts. Why am I not shocked that cagers are actually the reason for all this stepped up enforcement......

    What kind of moron would race in the left lane of a road like that?!?


    How come we never hear about this stuff... there should be a local site for stuff like that.
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  12. Aussie_Gringo

    Aussie_Gringo The anti-septic

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    This is what I was told this morning by a co-worker who is also a Malibu resident. One cage overtaking another cage on a blind turn.

    "Operation Safe Canyons"

    editted for accuracy.
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  13. Bullseye

    Bullseye Mr. Bad Example

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    This story was widely covered by the media at the time of the incident (March 25). The motorcyclists were not killed (They were very lucky).

    Here's the story/latest:
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  14. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    Jeeeezus christ.




    Just ban cages from those areas on the weekends minus local residents! Simple -
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  15. xlcr

    xlcr Stop being a dick, dick.

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    But the CHP reported the Harley riders as having "non life threatening injuries".


    Two people were killed when a chippie wrapped his Testarossa around a phone pole on Cornell Road. Maybe this is their response to that incident?
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  16. Aussie_Gringo

    Aussie_Gringo The anti-septic

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    I edited posted 32 but just went back and edited post 30, my info is second hand regarding whether riders suffered fatal injuries or not.. "Operation Safe Canyons" may be part of an alarming trend of riders dealing with asshats in cages.

    One thing that I know, another co-worker of mine rides a Harley and he lost two friends in one month on local rides last October; one cager was DUI.

    :cry
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  17. OldBMWMaster

    OldBMWMaster Banned

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    Here, they are only going after loud bikes. I have never had a problem; but I ride a BMW. No noise, just power.
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  18. focallength

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    har har har it has nothing to do with crystal balls, take for example a guy walking down the street threating to kill people (based on a true story) the cops can follow him around but they have to wait until he actually attacks someone. oh wait what about reports of people speeding down the same street everyday, same time. Post a car? nope they have to happen to be in the area and happen to catch them, and when they careen out of control and kill some poor old woman in a wheel chair on the sidewalk, well I guess its just too bad the 6 cops behind the 711 everyday numerous times a day were too busy to actually stop the guys who race by them at 100+ in a 35 zone, or wait what about the crack dealer who sells on his front porch openly... My point is Most police dont do enough to be proactive, they just wait for the call, arrest the murderer and inform the coroner. what about the guy who calls 911 and tells them that theres a guy breaking in to his house, they tell him noone can get to himm for 15 minutes, he tells dispatch that he is going to shoot the burglar if he comes in, 30 seconds later the OWNER is getting arrested for making threats and the burglar gets a ticket for trespassing.

    Oh and it was somewhere in ontario on the 60 I believe.
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  19. MotoMike

    MotoMike Washed Up Desert Racer

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    Pics of Mullholland wreck in question. I find it hard to believe the riders suffered "Non Life Threating injuries". I had heard one of them later died.

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  20. xlcr

    xlcr Stop being a dick, dick.

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    http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_6625785?source=most_viewed


    More cycles, worries
    <!--subtitle-->Amid motorcycle accident jump, demo stresses safety
    <!--byline-->By Bethania Palma, Staff Writer
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    <script language="JavaScript"> var requestedWidth = 0; </script><script language="JavaScript"> if(requestedWidth < 200){ requestedWidth = 200; } </script>[​IMG]Motorcycle stunt driver Bryan Friday maneuvers away from a car backing up, a common hazard for motorcycle drivers, during a motorcycle-safety demonstration on Tuesday at Irwindale Speedway. The demonstration was sponsored by the California Highway Patrol, the Motorcycle Safety Foundation and Automobile Club of Southern California. (David Pardo/Corresponent)



    <script language="JavaScript"> if(requestedWidth > 0){ document.getElementById('articleViewerGroup').style.width = requestedWidth + "px"; document.getElementById('articleViewerGroup').style.margin = "0px 0px 10px 10px"; } </script>IRWINDALE - The silver Ford Taurus veered sharply in front of the motorcycle rider, cutting him off. With screeching tires and smoke rising from the pavement, the crash was averted. But just barely.
    This scenario was staged Tuesday by two professional stunt drivers at the Irwindale Speedway, but it happens every day on city streets, experts said.
    Deaths from motorcycle-related traffic collisions have more than doubled since 1998, mainly because more people are buying the fuel-efficient two-wheelers, experts said. Registration in the state for motorcycles has increased 71 percent.
    That's why the California Highway Patrol, the Motorcycle Safety Foundation and the Automobile Club of Southern California teamed up to demonstrate what longtime riders agreed were the three most common crash scenarios.
    "Everything you see here, I've had happen to me," said Robert Gladden, project manager for the Motorcycle Safety Foundation. Gladden has been riding for 37 years.
    Stunt drivers John Alden and Bryan Friday demonstrated what Gladden was talking about.
    In one scenario, Alden backed the Taurus into Friday's path, forcing him to swerve. In another, the car and the motorcycle drove side by side until Alden suddenly accelerated to pass the motorcyclist on the left, cutting him off at the last minute, as though on a freeway exit.
    In the final scenario, which officials said is most common, Alden waited in the Taurus for a minivan to pass before making a left turn while Friday tailed behind on the motorcycle, hidden from Alden's view. Alden turned directly in front of him, barely missing the biker.
    CHP Officer Matt Lentz, who works in the Baldwin Park office, which includes parts of the Inland Valley, said his office had investigated 425 crashes involving motorcycles from 2005 to 2007.
    Of those crashes, eight involved fatalities, he said.
    So far this year, officers at the Rancho Cucamonga CHP station have investigated 64 motorcycle crashes, said Officer Sean Cooper. In roughly half of those, the motorcyclist was found to be at fault, he added.
    There were 102 crashes in 2006, and 78 crashes in 2005 that the CHP station's officers investigated. The station is responsible for the 210, 10 and 15 freeways.
    CHP Officer and Inland traffic management center spokesman Albert Graciano said motorcyclists and motorists need to watch out for each other or the results can be deadly.
    "The No. 1 cause for motorcycle accidents are unsafe lane changes," Graciano said. "Motorists go to change lanes and they don't anticipate anyone splitting traffic. So people go ahead and change lanes and then get hit by a motorcycle or sideswipe a motorcycle."
    "On surface streets, the most dangerous situations for both motorcyclists and motorists are left turns into driveways or intersections. People always see cars coming but have a difficult time seeing the silhouette of a motorcycle."
    For motorcyclists, dangers come with riding too fast or splitting traffic when traffic around them is traveling at a lot slower pace, Graciano said.
    Motorcyclists generally wear helmets in California and travel to Arizona if they want to ride without them, Graciano said.
    "It's not really an issue out here," he said about not wearing a helmet.
    Insurance companies will revoke a motorcyclist's insurance if they're caught without a helmet, Graciano said. With the recent passage of a law requiring insurance to drive in California, people do not want to take the chance of riding without a helmet, he said.
    While experts agreed blame can be more or less equally shared between motorcycle riders and car drivers, it's the bikers who suffer most.
    "When two vehicles get together and somebody dies, it's the motorcyclist," said Dr. Steve Bloch, the Auto Club's research analyst.
    Cyclists not only lack the external protection cars offer, but they are harder to see, officials said.
    "The fact that motorcyclists are so difficult for vehicles to see means (both) have to be extra careful," said Carol Thorp, spokeswoman for the Auto Club.
    The main thing people need to do is stay alert and avoid distraction, Thorp said.
    "Everybody's job when they're behind the wheel or the handlebars is to pay attention to the road," she said.
    Staff writer Wes Woods II contributed to this report.



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    "So far this year, officers at the Rancho Cucamonga CHP station have investigated 64 motorcycle crashes, said Officer Sean Cooper. In roughly half of those, the motorcyclist was found to be at fault, he added."

    And the other half involved motor officers.
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