What the hell? or 70+mph bike vs Barbed Wire Fence (updated with bike pics)

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by trc.rhubarb, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. docwyte

    docwyte Long timer

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    Ok. Here's another perspective. The hospital prepped the OR for you and scheduled the time for your procedure. Now that OR is empty, with no production and the supplies for prep are used, along with the staff/surgeon time to get it ready and work on you during the procedure. While I understand your perspective, there were still costs incurred.
  2. trc.rhubarb

    trc.rhubarb ZoomSplat!

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    Ouch! I'm sorry to hear that. I hope that at least you're healed up now.
    Money comes and goes but a leg is forever!
  3. HardWorkingDog

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    I don't want to clog this nice little thread up with more jo-momma-ish crap, but gonna do it anyway. Certainly, costs were incurred by the hospital but it is absolutely NOT the responsibility of the the injured rider. A bunch of medically-trained people made the decisions that led to the $6000 cost and it was the wrong decision. If I make the wrong decision in my business I eat the costs pure and simple. No way am I going to bill the customer for my error.

    The problem with our crappy health care system is that no one is responsible. They all push their problems on the next entity and we, the customer, wind up paying for it. Wrong.
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  4. Fenianbastard

    Fenianbastard Adventurer

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    The surgeon should eat that bill because he did crap pre-admission assessment. The surgeon/residents should have examined the patient immediately on admission or better still, a few days prior to the surgery. I would fight that bill every inch of the way. I work in a Same Day Surgery Suite and I see surgeons come late, cancel cases at the drop of a hat or we simply have patients who show up ill or having just had breakfast!!
  5. jjxtrider

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    If you want to see why medical costs are so high , go drive the rich side of town where the $.5mill to $1million homes and lots are , you know, the one where the doctors all live.
  6. trc.rhubarb

    trc.rhubarb ZoomSplat!

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    haha, i'm in a pretty blue collar neighborhood and we fit that description.

    Some doctors make good money for sure, but I think a majority is due to those that don't pay and the nonstop lawsuits.
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    Ya, with the house prices varying some place 1/2mill is a normal price I guess , maybe I should restate it as the ones with 1mill MORE worth in their house than the ave guy:D . Around me $100k is average .
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  8. anorphirith

    anorphirith Been here awhile

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    glad you're ok !
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  9. OldMotoGuySoCal

    OldMotoGuySoCal Returning Rider

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    You haven't been to California I guess, $500k is a crappy starter house in the land of fruits and nuts. The doctors live in places like Newport Beach where houses run $5-$15M
  10. trc.rhubarb

    trc.rhubarb ZoomSplat!

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    My first reaction was that I want to come live near you.
    Then I saw you live "halfway to hell" and it no longer seems so appealing :lol3
  11. jjxtrider

    jjxtrider questionable

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    It isn't :lol2

    miserable state, but cost of living isn't bad. I had to bore my way through 18+" of snow this morning , 3-4ft snowdrifts filled the road so even the truck would high center, and no snowplow to be seen. So grabbed my DRZ with full studs and forced my way to work , didn't even go down.
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  12. trc.rhubarb

    trc.rhubarb ZoomSplat!

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    This morning at 8am will be 60 hours since taking any opiates or Advil. I wanted a good gauge of how bad I really am, considering I was still feeling a good deal of pain while on the pills.
    Good news is that I'm not that bad! Outside of my wrists, the pain is dull and constant but mostly low level. As to my wrists, I've asked for a referral to an orthopedist. So far, nothing but I'll call my doctor today again.
    I still have almost no strength at all in my wrists and if I try to use them for weight bearing or basic stuff like shaking hands, they light me up pretty good.

    Friday I get to commute 80 miles (round trip) which isn't bad but my first commute since the accident. Between that and getting to sit in a hotel conference room for 8 hours, I think I'll be needing some pills. I'm going to try without though but bring them just in case so that I can get home. So far, I've not been able to do more than 3 hours in the office without having to go back home.

    So it looks like things are wrapping up here and I will soon be on with life again.

    Thanks again everyone for the support.
  13. kr1

    kr1 Just the right amount of evil.

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    After my accident I had tweaked my right wrist pretty bad. Mine was a bad sprain and it took probably a good two months before I could use it with anything close to my old strength though I could feel it improving daily. See the doc, don't rush it. Make sure it heals correctly. You'll probably be wanting to use that wrist for the rest of your life.

    KR
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  14. RiverCitySlicker

    RiverCitySlicker Completing The Worlds Longest Top End Kit Install

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    you must assume he is married or something?
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    TwoUpTourer Been here awhile

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    That is the funniest thing I ever heard :lol3
    $6k for not even starting! I shouldn't gloat, but I'm in Oz, and this couldn't happen.
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    Also figure paying 20% of that at $1200 at the current US minimum wage of $7.25 which is $5.80 an hour after taxes you would need to work over 200 hours, 5 weeks worth of pay. For nothing. Welcome to America.

    If you work one of the million minimum wage jobs and break your leg you are literally screwed.
  17. TwoUpTourer

    TwoUpTourer Been here awhile

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    Sorry guys, that is really just appalling. My daughter works part time as a shop assistant whilst at at Uni and makes more than double that, and we have national health cover. Whenever i travel overseas and take out travel insurance, there are two categories: World Wide Cover, and USA. It has to be separated out from the rest of the world from an insurance company's perspective due to the extreme costs of health care there, as so amply demonstrated in this thread. And no, there are no reds under the bed here, in fact my observations during two visits to the USA is that in almost every other way Australia is indistinguishable from the USA. Funny accents though :)
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  18. HardWorkingDog

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    No Vegemite here either :photog
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    TwoUpTourer Been here awhile

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    Excellent material for a noisy differential and on toast! :)
  20. trc.rhubarb

    trc.rhubarb ZoomSplat!

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    I much prefer Marmite anyhow :lol3