what to expect from wife , when doing two up ? should I ?

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by booniebasher, Dec 1, 2016.

  1. OZKAT

    OZKAT Adventurer

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    Been pillion for over 35 years. Various bikes (HD low rider- travelled 8/9 mths USA in 1984, try siting on a 6" square for 25,000 miles and see how your backside likes it. ) MGuzzie like sitting two up on an ironing board, BMW Pari Dakar, and our current Bike Honda Africa Twin. My view is a back rest is imperitive - not to lean on but more as a brace for those unexpected moments for excellaration or sudden change of direction. Can be a weapon when riding over rough/pot holed roads). Good protective clothing is a must. In 1984 we just had open face helmets, jeans and leather jackets. No such thing as water proof clothing back then. We improvised with snow gear over the top. Still no such thing as Water proof gloves. Also after recent accident SO PLEASED we wear our good riding gear no matter the temp or how uncomfortable it is - it's what saved us some serious injuries (no thanks to the car driver whom took us out). Hubby also modified the Honda to make it as comfortable as possible for both of us. Custom seat for longer rides, original seat found me sliding into his back all the time). Extra rear suspension to handle the extra weight, especially for the odd off-road experience (inevitable on our RTW adventure. As for luggage. Soft panniers to reduce the risk of physical damage - particularly my legs for when we topple on the off road bits (and it's happened) The less you take the better. I don't do make-up, Not a fashionista-never have been. We have a Sena com system, supposed to be the bees knees designed specifically for our Neotech helmets, but we found it so frustrating to use we just don't use it. Back to the old way of comminication. Shoulder taps, squeeze the legs etc etc. Good comfortable boots, again ours protected us in the accident and are reasonably waterproof. We are doing some miles in some pretty heavy rain in SEA at the moment.
    Like others we generally have one pannier each and a top box for camping gear and other belongings that can be locked.
    In the long run you have to work out what's best for you-some people are good pillions others not.
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  2. AdventurePoser

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    Great thread, like many of you, I have a very adventurous female riding partner. She's done about 45,000 miles with me two up. I think the advice given has been excellent. Start easy, have fun and make sure she is properly kitted out to be safe and comfortable. You guys will have a blast!
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  3. AdventurePoser

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    If you are coming down the coast, stay safe and dry, and make sure you stop in and say hi here in Newport, OR. A guest room awaits...
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  4. Homer GSA

    Homer GSA R1200GSA 2008

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    If you and your partner are are happy like these people you will have a ball.

    Some of the most intimate (non rumpy pumpy) moments we have are on the bike.

    Have fun!
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  5. tlub

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    My approach has been to be sure her bike is at least as big as mine. Since she wants me to lead and navigate, she follows, and the person following is always playing crack the whip. So the more powerful bike needs to be in the rear. So she has an R90/6; I have an R75/5. It's worked well since 1984. When we met, I did not own a car nor had I for 12 years. 6 of that was in Illinois; 6 in CA. Since I only had a bike, if a woman did not want to ride, we did not go places. It limited the pool, but that was just fine. That way I did not have to bother with the fluff. Only the best ones were left. And I found there was no shortage of 'best ones'.
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    My wife is one of these. The other woman is her identical twin. She rides an R75/5. The red R90/6 is my wife's bike; the green R75/5 is mine.
    You just have to make the right choices early in life.
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  6. nickguzzi

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    At least I no longer live in the East Midlands....

    Nice that so many enjoy riding with their own someone special even if that may mean a compromise or two. The payback is having some one you like being with to share the non riding time together.
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  7. Nice Goat

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    The only thing better than riding is riding with someone you love.

    Love this thread ... it has given me some good ideas.

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  8. Use2btrix

    Use2btrix Been here awhile

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    Passenger comfort is huge. Everything you can do to make her more comfortable will help a ton. Get her quality gear that is comfortable, functional, and looks good. The helmet coms help a LOT. They're so great for music and talking.

    Include her on trip planning, packing, etc. My wife loves to cook so letting her in on the planning for cookware was great.

    Right now we are planning on a Baja trip for January. We've only done 3-4 day trips on the past and this will be more like 2-3 weeks on the bike, so we'll see how that goes, I'm sure we'll be good.

    Some comfort additions on our Super Tenere were: back rest, lowering peg brackets, seat concepts seat and a air Hawk for longer rides.

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  9. Tee2

    Tee2 I SAID! Woo Hoo!

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    When my wife started riding with me it was on a KLR 650. Like others, out to dinner, get photo tags. Mostly 1-2 hours. Our first big ride was up the west coast of Lake Michigan. Maybe 300 miles, hotel for the night and back home the next day. It was fun but a learning experience. I learned, no way she would ever ride her own bike. She hates the interstate. It was great riding with my best friend. She staring thinking we needed a bigger more comfortable bike. Comfortable gear was needed for both.

    When I upgraded to a 990 she wanted to ride more. The back top case was a must, She is cold blooded and and heated gear from gloves down to the socks. She has better stuff than I, but that is what it takes. We have since done camping trips, but we keep it very simple, oatmeal breakfast, lunch out, and light diner. The best camping thing we got was a BA double sleeping bag with Exped pads. Just like sleeping in our own bed. The comm is a must. We talked more on rides than we did at home. We have a Scala that is flaky but for the most part works.


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    42 degree morning Traverse City MI. 4th day of a 5 day trip.

    We live in a great place to ride now but she is having problems with her hips and back that is hard for her to be on the bike more than a few hours. I miss having my riding buddy. This year we are going to try more shorter rides and see if we can work up to some bigger rides again.
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  10. nickguzzi

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    I have very little experience of being a passenger, but one thing I noticed right away is that you have absolutely no control.
    Being a great passenger is a skill and like all skills, takes time and practice to do it well, plus good and positive feedback. Remember it can be scary back there, not knowing exactly what is going on.

    I like riding, the twisting the throttle, snicking the gears, braking, leaning sort of thing. I rarely have a serious interest in where we go. High spots are decent restaurants for me. Somewhere comfortable to sleep, be it tent or hotel. My passengers have both liked doing the research, targeting places to go, then we would get together and I would sort a route that is interesting for both of us. Ie. one avoiding cities - unless that is a required destination, less common now. We can visit Paris by Eurostar for similar prices without the hassle of a vehicle when we get to somewhere parking is a nightmare.
    As we mostly ride in France. From here it maybe takes us a week to get down south. Lots of little roads, a day of riding and maybe only 100 miles closer, but a day of enjoyment. Interrupted for a look off a bridge, or clifftop, admire some fine cattle or horses. Following lines of ancient or not so ancient battles, or Route des Vins, ..des Chateaux, ..des Chataignes (sweet chestnuts), ..des fromage du cherve etc etc. Most of these give opportunities for tastings along the way. Of course theere is always the possibility of changing my mind, taking different and more interesting looking side roads. Ending up somewhere completely different.
    Traffic gets up my nose, I can't stand to follow a vehicle I can't see round, over or through. Little roads in France mostly have little traffic. What there is, is mostly short haul, farm or hamlet to local market and back.
    The little roads also have small towns or villages. Fortunately many still have facilities - shops and bars, boulangerie and restaurants. So for me, vittels and entertainment are built into the route.

    I know couples where the rider does everything, organises the whole shebang, the other putting passive into passenger. I guess it must work for them. The point is to work out what works for both of you as a couple.
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  11. red bud

    red bud alky w/motorcycle problem

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    the wifes first long trip in the late 80s

    when I met her I didn't have anything but that old /5

    i'd took the saddlebags off because they rubbed her legs. she walked out of our apartment with that suitcase, I didn't say a word I just strapped it on

    don't get me wrong I've talked a lot shit about it sence
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    this was from Georgia to Indiana



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    ease her into it, like others said short trips. to dinner, town etc

    then a short over nighter, hopefully she'll take right to it & start talking longer trips

    yall will learn what to take & how to pack

    when you feel her shifting around back there stop for a short break. make up hand signals when she wants to stop, needs a pee break etc.









    wifey last summer top of pikes peak

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    be prepared taking her along your gonna be caring a lot more stuff




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    & the more comfortable she is the better she likes it


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  12. red bud

    red bud alky w/motorcycle problem

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    oh & the r100r I've added floorboards, backrest &armrests

    yes arm rests:lol3
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  13. Gham

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    That's a great pic! :lol3 Typical 80's touring :imaposer
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  14. nbbarnes

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    some of the replies on this thread make it sound like that woman are all whiners and more of a burden than a pleasure to have with you. others have obviously found their diamond in the rough ( as i have as well) that absolutely love everything about being a passenger. i posted a very similar question on a different forum but more directed to camping two up. the replies i got were rediculous. i was told to tow a trailer because i needed to pack everything for my wife as well as the kitchen sink. i must be really lucky because my wife can pack incredibly light and isnt affraid to wear the same shirt and socks two days in a row under her riding gear. i use a GIVI top box so she can rest against it and just enjoy the ride. we started out slow but after a few local rides for lunch and dinners, she never wanted to get off. i am always concerned about her comfort but she tells me to stop stopping and worrying about her and just keep riding. the intercoms IMO are a must. we have such a great laugh while cruising down the highways and helps us feel connected. unless you have a bad experience with her on the back i am sure she will love it. especially if she supports your pasion for riding. we share the planning, packing, the good and the bad together.
    there has been a lot of good advice on here for your question. what made it work for me is fun rides, keeping her comfortable, and including her in everything. enjoy every minute of it. sorry for my little rant.
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  15. KTM Mike

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    I'm with nbbarnes - i got lucky and found my best biker buddy when I married my wife almost 36 years ago. We started ADV riding two just 4 years ago - but have done lots of backpacking and camping off sport touring bikes - so it was not to hard to do off the ADV bike (initially Vstrom 1000 and now KTM 990). Set your bike up for her comfort. If she has long legs, peg lower brackets. Comfy back rest, AirHawk, all the protective gear etc. Its only last year we started using intercoms (Sena SMH10) and really like them. There is a variety of suggestions buried in my CDR thread, regarding two up riding. See link in my signature.
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  16. Bucket1960

    Bucket1960 Been here awhile

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    If you have uneven sized panniers, make sure she get the BIG one, otherwise you'll never hear the end of it :lol3
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  17. NorthPole

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    Well I guess I missed the part about taking short trips with the Mrs as a starting point. 27 years ago I married my early high school sweetheart. Christmas 2014 she told me she wasn't getting me anything that year because I usually buy what I want anyway. I took that as a sign to buy a K1600 out east and have it shipped to Montanna where her brother lives. My plan was to ride it up the Cassiar highway June 2015 and I jokingly said, "You should come along."
    So here we were on a bike I had never ridden with a great woman as my back up planning a 10 day trip with only a starting and end point and a highway in the middle that we had never been on. We have driven the Alcan so many tims in the truck that we weren't about to do it on the bike.
    We only used the on bike storage and didn't strap anything to the outside of the bike. We did camp a few nights and hotel / lodge the other nights. No plans for any of the days, just ride, relax, repeat. The Bluetooth helmet communicators were great and I was pleasantly surprised as to how enjoyable listening to her was for that many days in a row. Seeing many black and grizzly bear along the way was so much more enjoyable when I could hear her enthusiasm as she hasn't been out so much as I have.
    I used to ride when we first got married but gave it up when our daughter came along as I saw it as a selfish activity. In hindsight we both wish we would have started riding together years ago.
    I have since gotten rid of the 1600 and now have a GSA knowing that many adventures await the two of us.
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  18. Hobbsrt

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    riding with my wife is great and we have gone on numerous 2+ week trips with camping gear, food and all the crap. we have been offroad for a couple days at time and had a blast together. i have found that the larger adventure bikes are more than capable and can do more than most of us are ever going to try. i want my wife to be comfortable first and foremost and after that ask her to maintain her balance so i knowI know what to expect from the bike. weve been over Cumberland and weston passes and there are others that have done much harder passes. i usually dont ride more that 150 miles with the wife on the back so we can do other stuff too. have fun.
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  19. davesride

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    My wife and I have done much 2 up tourig and riding in general. She gets a little ticked when I go for a ride without her. She has fairly debilitating MS and has difficulty walking but she loves to ride and has more than a few 1000 km days under her belt. Sena, a good comfy seat, comfortable gear, early warning pee breaks, patience and talk about what is coming up to give her a warning if you are about to do something erratic. 2 weeks to the east coast last summer, 3 nites with friends, 4 in motels and the rest we camped. Planning on the D2D this summer, 13,000 kms in 3 weeks and we are planning on camping for most or all of it.
    She is a trooper and can put up me so everything else is easy!!!
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  20. Gham

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    I have learned from experience that it doesn't matter if you just reached your campsite/motel whatever,having ridden through pouring rain and gale force winds for hours if she suddenly finds she's missing something you better set down that beer you were so enjoying and go fetch it for her or you will never hear the end of it.

    I just smile and say "sure thing honey".On a trip my wife is totally dependent on me to be the provider of "stuff".It's just part of your responsibility.
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