What's become of the small 4x4 truck?

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Schmeds, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

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    I had one for a couple years. I think it got in the high 20s up to 30 mpg. I wasn't very good about measuring because I was running it on biodiesel, and so I was always putting in one or two 5 gallon jugs (I made the biodiesel, and stored it in 5 gallon jugs), and not topping it off. It was slow, and tended to be a bit smoky when it was cold, and it got slower and smokier as you went up in elevation. I imagine it might be fine in florida. Real easy truck to work on, as most stuff of that vintage is, and they used that motor in marine and forklift applications also, so parts are out there if you spend the time to track them down.
  2. Grreatdog

    Grreatdog Long timer

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    I hate to post this since it marks me as an old fart, but I bought a 78 Datsun King Cab back during one of the OPEC oil embargos. That thing with a five speed gas motor routinely averaged 25mpg and could get 30 back in those days of heavily enforced 55mph speed limits. That thing was fun and comfortable. It hauled a lot of bikes and Boston Whalers. Too bad it was, as the Car Talk guys once said of Vegas, made of compressed rust.

    You could watch it evaporate. But mechanically it was the equal of the mighty Hilux and way better than my brother's Ford Courier. But we will never see little trucks like that again. By the time you put 15 airbags, an infotainment center, TC/ABS plumbing and computers, a back seat, double sided bed, two extra doors, water bottle holders and a dozen cupholders they aren't small trucks anymore.

    But I would buy one again if somebody ever manages to cram all that mostly useless crap in a similar package.
  3. The Last Cowboy

    The Last Cowboy Gettin' by

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    There was also a Ranger diesel and an Isuzu Pu'p diesel, The Isuzu is probably the most common and reliable them.

    The Isuzus were capable of low 40s in MPG on the old high sulfur fuel. You can probably discount 15-20% on ULS (ultra low sulfur). And running the old injector pump without additives in the ULS will doom it to an early death.

    To run one today, with diesel fuel 30-60 cents more per gallon (depending on location) combined with having to put additives in the fuel makes no sense.

    As a bio conversion though, different story. They will also run great on off road diesel.
  4. Andrew

    Andrew Optimus Primer Super Moderator

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    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    And $30k for the baseline model :huh. Also weirdly they tout 19mpg as efficient
  6. Andrew

    Andrew Optimus Primer Super Moderator

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    :loco but that was 19 mpg for a 4x4. But 28 mpg for the rear-drive model, almost reasonable.
  7. lesman

    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    I owned a 1983 Toyota Diesel 2wd. I averaged 35 mpg. I could get 50-55 mpg driving 50 mph . Remember this was when there was 55 hiway speeds.
    The engine had maybe 60hp probably closer to 50 hp.
    I also owned a 1984 Toyota 4x4 gasser, I'm thinking it got low twenty's possibly high teens gas mileage. Fantastic truck. Got close to 150k before I sold it.
  8. shores

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  9. rob feature

    rob feature Domain Ranger

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    :nod

    It isn't a gawd awful tire in the mud, but it's no mud tire. I've learned to respect the mud with them. But they're very nice in the snow - great traction. Mine are also siped. They're a little on the rough side, but then again I have the E-rated version on a 1st gen Taco.
  10. MillCreek

    MillCreek ADV Risk Manager

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    I see also that Nissan just released a 2015 version of the Frontier in Thailand, and I would imagine it will be coming over here.
  11. Andrew

    Andrew Optimus Primer Super Moderator

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    Sure, right behind Toyota's Hi-Lux. :deal
  12. dwayne

    dwayne Silly Adventurer

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    And the VW Amarok
  13. wannaklr

    wannaklr Long timer

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    I would really like to test that one when it comes out. Looks perfect sized for me. I would like a truck, just don't need a semi sized half ton.
  14. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    Is it my imagination or isn't that a rebadged Chevy/GMC Canyon/Colorado? Even the engine options are the same.
  15. RYANINMICHIGAN

    RYANINMICHIGAN Been here awhile

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    Where do you find the specs on MPGs?
  16. siyeh

    siyeh unproductive

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    I read on the interwebz a short time ago, that Toyota will not be offering a Tacoma Reg Cab in 2015 . I stopped at my Toyota dealer the other day and asked the crack sales team if indeed that is true. They said yes, no Reg Cab Taco next year. Then they tried to sell me a 14 on the lot. :D I told them at 97,000 miles, my 03 Taco is just getting broke in.
  17. HighAlpineDrifter

    HighAlpineDrifter Long timer

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    I was thinking about trading my 2002 ranger. Maybe I need to do that later. Question is if there'll be a run on the regular cabs
  18. James Adams

    James Adams n00b

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    It's still speculation at this point, no official EPA ratings yet.
  19. deputygene

    deputygene Been here awhile

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    I had one of those too, great little truck. Mine ran great when we traded it in with around 275K miles. Also 20-25 mpg winding the little four banger for all she was worth. I think this would be a a great truck for Hyundai or kia to bring in. Keep it cheap, lite, few comforts, great motor. They would sell.
  20. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    The Soul is selling so well, how hard would it be to graft a bed onto it?

    They showed a sort of silly, short, concept of it in '09, but nothing since then.