Wheel bearing disintegrates - F800

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by tmex, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do Super Moderator

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    Thanks. Just wanted to make sure I didn't get huffy and demand a new hub if nothing official had been posted on the subject. :norton


    Is there any Motorrad policy precluding me from bringing the wheel and sprocket carrier in off the bike? Logistically it's a lot easier, and I want the service manager to put his hands on the bearings while I'm standing there. I don't want the BS stroking I had to go through last time.

    I can see them saying "we can't service this without the whole bike, though, because you might reinstall the wheel on your worldly adventure bike incorrectly -- and we couldn't have you blaming us for anything that comes from it". Which, on the one hand, I could understand. And on the other hand, is totally ridiculous.

    Unfortunately, ridiculous lawyers seem to run much of what happens in this country these days.


    Thanks,
  2. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do Super Moderator

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    Ok, thx. I've got the RepRom in addition to the owners manual, and I own (and use, to much amusement of the guys at work) a torque wrench. :D
  3. dukedar

    dukedar 60 easy payments!

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    My dealership gives a better rate for tire swaps if you bring them in off of the bike... that and no appointment is required :D.

    They never mentioned any issues with BMW at all...but I will ask them next time! I am getting new tires within the next 2 months, and I intend to bring them in for it AND have them check the bearings again...
  4. Bayner

    Bayner Long timer

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    Well, don't worry Woody, you'll be seeing my wheels soon enough...
  5. Y E T I

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    Nate, that's how I brought mine in when I got my bearings replaced under warranty. And the cush bearings too.
  6. PackMule

    PackMule love what you do Super Moderator

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    Cool, thanks guys. Now I just have to find a time where I can stand to be without the bike for a bit. Kind of tough now that I have the studded tires, just want to keep riding! :ricky
  7. Y E T I

    Y E T I Unpossible

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    If you make an appointment, you should just be to take the wheel in and walk out with new bearings an hour later.
  8. gwhis

    gwhis Been here awhile

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    My bike is in the shop now and they wouldn't even take the wheel off and check the bearings because the wheel didn't have side play in it. I was told that wheel bearings are wear items and not covered by warranty.
  9. Y E T I

    Y E T I Unpossible

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    Did you check your bearings? Are they shot? I wouldn't expect my dealer to check my bearings for me under warranty either.


    When I discovered mine were bad my dealer initially told me the same thing. I then took the wheel in with the crunchy bearings and they agreed to cover them.
  10. drrags

    drrags Dorkus Malorkus

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    Same here. I had to bring in the unmounted wheel. It got handled just fine after that.
  11. gwhis

    gwhis Been here awhile

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    Yea, I had checked them and told them that one of the bearings feel gritty when turned with my finger. I had to agree to pay a half hour labor for them to remove the wheel and check it. After checking it they said it wasn't bad enough to need replacing yet. The shop owner also pointed out that I had not bought the bike from them, so I guess that also has an effect on the service rendered to me. Since the the closest dealer is 100 miles from me, I told the owner that I wanted it fixed even if I had to pay. I read on a different site that the dealership had been bought by the Harley dealer and will be moving, so service may improve.
  12. RV8Pilot

    RV8Pilot Blue,Green,Blue,Gree.....

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    Are the bearings still a problem with the newer bikes or was this reserved for just the initial batch? I just bought a 2010 F8, should I just replace the bearings in it as a preventative measure?
  13. Ducksbane

    Ducksbane Quaaack!!!

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    The problem wasn't the bearings it was the machining in the hub. I imagine that the problem doesn't effect many newer bikes, so I doubt you need to change your bearings.

    You probably should check the everytime you have the wheel off though, just in case.
  14. woody's wheel works

    woody's wheel works Built to Last

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    guys i'm flabbergastered that after all the R&D and bench-racing on this thread,,,that all of you are still just settling for bearing replacement....

    you can swap out all the new bearings of whatever brand suits your fancy til dooms day,,,if the undersized bore on your bike's rear hub is not brought up to .001''interference fit,,,the new bearing WILL FAIL sooner or later....the early symptoms are a crunchy gritty sensation when you twist the bearing with your finger.

    the Rx is
    1,,honing/boring the hub out for proper fit ,ie.001'' crush
    2,,replacing/re-lacing with a new corrected hub
    3,,replacing the wheel assy

    FYI,,most everyone that had just the bearings swapped has had to swap them again,,evry 1,000-2,000 miles

    demand a solution and not just a band-aid:thumb

    here's the parallel thread that explains it all:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11130431&postcount=15


  15. Y E T I

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    Woody, I'm sure you're right, but BMW isn't going to replace the hub after just one set of bearings goes bad as much as I wish they would. I'm on my second set now with about 4k miles on them. I'm going to be checking them this weekend and, if they're shot, I will be requesting a new hub or that they let you re-machine this one. I'll report back after they're checked.
  16. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    If the problem happened in a low miles bike, at the rotor side of the rear wheel, wouldn't that be enough evidence to kick in the warranty service based on BMW's own assertion of a set of miss-machined hubs?


  17. Y E T I

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    Except that BMW has never acknowledged that any hubs were mis-machined.
  18. WOLVERINE

    WOLVERINE Keep her pinned!

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    I have 8000kms on mine and no wheel play or any sign of failure at this point. It was a January build date last year so Not sure if that makes a difference. Then again, I have a bigger issue with the bike!:baldy
  19. drrags

    drrags Dorkus Malorkus

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    They did for me (Honda of Houston). But I suspect a lot of it has to do with how enthusiastic your dealer supports you. And IIRC I already 12k miles on mine. BTW, 10,000 miles later I just checked them and they feel like new.

    Hey, does anyone know if the XChallenge rear wheel fits the F800GS?
  20. Y E T I

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    They replaced your hub? Or your bearings?